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June 15th 06, 03:07 AM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
KENG wrote:
Gord Beaman wrote: "Diamond Jim" wrote: "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9366221/detail.html "This ain't your grandpa's V-22," said Maj. David Lane, of the U.S. Marine Corps. "This aircraft is phenomenally safe. I've got a family. I wouldn't strap myself in if I wasn't comfortable with where it stands and where it was at." Has it really been in development that long? ;-) -HJC I think it has been in development forever, :-) at least it seems like it. DJ Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj I suppose you believe that the development of the SR-71 started on a windy day at Kitty Hawk too, eh? KenG Don't seem to know much about aircraft do you?... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) 
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June 15th 06, 05:17 AM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
Gord Beaman wrote:
"Joe Delphi" wrote: "Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . "Diamond Jim" wrote: Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj And then in the 1970s Bell designed and built the XV-15 tilt rotor demonstration aircraft for NASA research. http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/XV-15/index.html JD The XV-15 did not tilt the wing (only the engine pods at the wingtips) as both the CL-84 and the V-22 do. Sorry Gord, while the CL-84 was a tiltwing, both the XV-15 and V-22 are tiltrotors -- the wing stays put when the nacelles rotate. See: http://www.navair.navy.mil/v22/index...action=gallery. among many other sites. The vertical 'wing' section you can see in some shots when the nacelles are vertical are the large flaps, which droop something like 85 degrees to minimize vertical drag (Dv) when in helicopter mode. Guy
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#13
June 15th 06, 07:40 PM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
Guy Alcala wrote:
Gord Beaman wrote: "Joe Delphi" wrote: "Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . "Diamond Jim" wrote: Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj And then in the 1970s Bell designed and built the XV-15 tilt rotor demonstration aircraft for NASA research. http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/XV-15/index.html JD The XV-15 did not tilt the wing (only the engine pods at the wingtips) as both the CL-84 and the V-22 do. Sorry Gord, while the CL-84 was a tiltwing, both the XV-15 and V-22 are tiltrotors -- the wing stays put when the nacelles rotate. See: http://www.navair.navy.mil/v22/index...action=gallery. among many other sites. The vertical 'wing' section you can see in some shots when the nacelles are vertical are the large flaps, which droop something like 85 degrees to minimize vertical drag (Dv) when in helicopter mode. Guy Yes, you're right, I stand corrected...it 'was' the flaps that misled me...(your URL didn't work btw - but I found it in Google) Thanks for the info sir... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email)
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June 15th 06, 09:40 PM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
Gord Beaman wrote:
KENG wrote: Gord Beaman wrote: "Diamond Jim" wrote: "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9366221/detail.html "This ain't your grandpa's V-22," said Maj. David Lane, of the U.S. Marine Corps. "This aircraft is phenomenally safe. I've got a family. I wouldn't strap myself in if I wasn't comfortable with where it stands and where it was at." Has it really been in development that long? ;-) -HJC I think it has been in development forever, :-) at least it seems like it. DJ Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj I suppose you believe that the development of the SR-71 started on a windy day at Kitty Hawk too, eh? KenG Don't seem to know much about aircraft do you?... I guess you didn't catch my note of sarcasm, eh?
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#15
June 15th 06, 10:17 PM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
KENG wrote:
Gord Beaman wrote: KENG wrote: Gord Beaman wrote: "Diamond Jim" wrote: "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9366221/detail.html "This ain't your grandpa's V-22," said Maj. David Lane, of the U.S. Marine Corps. "This aircraft is phenomenally safe. I've got a family. I wouldn't strap myself in if I wasn't comfortable with where it stands and where it was at." Has it really been in development that long? ;-) -HJC I think it has been in development forever, :-) at least it seems like it. DJ Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj I suppose you believe that the development of the SR-71 started on a windy day at Kitty Hawk too, eh? KenG Don't seem to know much about aircraft do you?... I guess you didn't catch my note of sarcasm, eh? Well, of course I did, but there's sarcasm and then there's silly...which catagory do you think your remark was in?... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email)
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#16
June 15th 06, 11:47 PM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
"Gord Beaman" wrote:
"Diamond Jim" wrote: "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9366221/detail.html "This ain't your grandpa's V-22," said Maj. David Lane, of the U.S. Marine Corps. "This aircraft is phenomenally safe. I've got a family. I wouldn't strap myself in if I wasn't comfortable with where it stands and where it was at." Has it really been in development that long? ;-) -HJC I think it has been in development forever, :-) at least it seems like it. DJ Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj Bell has worked on the tilt rotor since the late 40's. This one took to the air in the mid 1950's. http://www.vstol.org/wheel/VSTOLWheel/BellXV-3.htm
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#17
June 16th 06, 01:20 AM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
Gord Beaman wrote:
KENG wrote: Gord Beaman wrote: KENG wrote: Gord Beaman wrote: "Diamond Jim" wrote: "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9366221/detail.html "This ain't your grandpa's V-22," said Maj. David Lane, of the U.S. Marine Corps. "This aircraft is phenomenally safe. I've got a family. I wouldn't strap myself in if I wasn't comfortable with where it stands and where it was at." Has it really been in development that long? ;-) -HJC I think it has been in development forever, :-) at least it seems like it. DJ Probably a lot longer than you're indicating (or that you know!)...it seems most odd that it's NEVER mentioned in any info I've seen but this aircraft was designed and flown by Canadair in Montreal in the EARLY SIXTIES!...it was known as the CL-84 Dynavert. First flew in 1965. http://tinyurl.com/rk2tj I suppose you believe that the development of the SR-71 started on a windy day at Kitty Hawk too, eh? KenG Don't seem to know much about aircraft do you?... I guess you didn't catch my note of sarcasm, eh? Well, of course I did, but there's sarcasm and then there's silly...which catagory do you think your remark was in?... Ok, ya got me there.
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#18
June 16th 06, 03:01 AM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
KENG wrote:
Well, of course I did, but there's sarcasm and then there's silly...which catagory do you think your remark was in?... Ok, ya got me there. Sorry that this went so far...I don't usually do this, sorry. -- -Gord. (use gordon in email)
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#19
June 16th 06, 11:13 PM
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This ain't your grandpa's V-22
Gord Beaman wrote:
KENG wrote: Well, of course I did, but there's sarcasm and then there's silly...which catagory do you think your remark was in?... Ok, ya got me there. Sorry that this went so far...I don't usually do this, sorry. NP
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