Alternate same as departure?

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

dlevy wrote:
Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

Certainly. Nobody cares or checks on what you've filed anyway. If they did,
there's nothing wrong with having the departure airport as a filed alternate.


Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

In article ,
dlevy wrote:
Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

Sure you can file your origin as your alternate. There's no reason
not to. All an alternate means is someplace you've pre-computed you
should (according to specific criteria laid out in part 91) be able to
get into if your destination becomes unusable.

If your goal is to get someplace, turning around and going back home
may not be very useful, but it's certainly legal.

"dlevy" wrote in news:7_0td.36539$Dm2.20820
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

Certainly. I do it all the time. As long as it meets the weather
requirements and you have the fuel onboard, you can use it.

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Stan

In a previous article, "dlevy" said:
Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

I'm pretty sure one of the cross country questions in the IFR "written"
does exactly that.


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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:54:29 -0600, "dlevy" wrote:

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?


Does it qualify as an alternate?


Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

I should have mentioned I wouldn't depart if it didn't qualify as an
alternate.

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:54:29 -0600, "dlevy" wrote:

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?


Does it qualify as an alternate?


Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

dlevy wrote:

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?

Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.



Sure, why not?


Matt

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:13:25 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:54:29 -0600, "dlevy" wrote:

Can you file the departure airport as the alternate?


Does it qualify as an alternate?

You can file it as the destination too.

I filed from 3BS direct MBS VOR, LAN, AMN, 3BS.
There was a pause and the briefer said, I think I can see a way to
save you a lot of gas if you are willing to go direct.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Two airports in the middle of nowhere 40 miles apart. I can't think of
another reasonable option.

Roger wrote:
I filed from 3BS direct MBS VOR, LAN, AMN, 3BS.
There was a pause and the briefer said, I think I can see a way to
save you a lot of gas if you are willing to go direct.

:-)

Actually, I've filed similar plans with Lansing, and they wouldn't let
me. They insisted that I file at least 2 plans, one departing Midland
and the other departing Lansing.

I've also tried to file flight plans with the alternate the same as the
departure, and they wouldn't take it. I didn't argue, and just gave
another nearby alternate (e.g. DET instead of PTK).