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Jay Honeck wrote in news:acec2441-90b2-4336-9487-
: In over two decades of participation in Usenet, I've seen 'em come and go. *Unfortunately, the bad seem to drive out the good. *Remember George Patterson, Pete Duniho, Wally Roberts, John T. Lowry, John R. Johnson, Wes Grady, Mary Shafer, ... ? And I can add another dozen or so names to that list. All real people, all using their real names, all real pilots. All gone. And yet you slfishly continue to post. Tch tch. Bertie |
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Dana M. Hague d(dash)m(dash)hague(at)comcast(dot)net wrote in
: On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 06:55:44 -0800 (PST), Jay Honeck wrote: True, everyone here (well, with some exceptions) figured it out -- eventually. In my case, however, I wasted 35 years of my life on the ground, gazing skyward, never realizing how truly easy and accessible GA was... Hmmm, between R/C models and reading Richard Bach (the old stuff, of course, before he got New Age weird), I never had any doubt that I'd learn to fly (which I did, at age 16), or that it would be easy. You could afford RC models back then? Even a Heathkit set back then was megabucks. Unless yo were just doing escapement or galloping ghost. Bertie |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote...
And I can add another dozen or so names to that list. All real people, all using their real names, all real pilots. All gone. Not that they didn't relish a good argument -- far from it! But rather than simply shouting people down, they preferred to win through by using logic, superior knowledge, and a persuasive argument to carry the day. It was...fun. Your post makes many good points, and I thank you for posting them. Let's hope we see a renaissance of those values here again. It appears that the popular theory is that these people left because they couldn't stand the fact that people like Bertie were allowed to post here - doesn't seem plausible to me. A more believeable reason is that they no longer got anything from being here - perhaps the majority of the discussions started to trend towards fluff and/or areas they simply weren't interested in. You guys always like to talk about signal to noise ratio which is puzzling to me. YOU are in control of your signal to noise ratio. If you don't care to read posts from a particular person, DON'T! How tough is that? It's no different from scrolling past topics you're not intersted in. Same goes for mx - he's an argumentative character with no aviation background and he posts to provoke more than anything else. So what? Nobody is forcing you to read his stuff. Every time mx posts there is a response from Bertie. I know what he is going to say, so I typically do not read the response. At the same time I don't get my undies all up in a bundle because he responded. BDS |
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The reporter got almost every detail wrong --
I must have missed those details, because I know you and your kid, and the story looked pretty good; names, ages, the Inn, his course of study; What errors should be corrected? Gosh, where to start? The errors include... - Referring to the certificate as a "permit" - Referring to the checkride as a "licensing exam" - Saying Joe was introduced to flying in a C-150 when he was 7 years old. (Dunno WHERE he got that from.) - Saying Joe flew at night to get his ticket - Sayiing he flew to Burlington using no navigational aids - Saying the oral exam was just 5 questions - Saying the commercial requires 500 hours The guy got just about every nuance wrong -- but luckily most of this stuff would only be known to pilots. IMHO the overall story came through as a positive hit for aviation. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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It appears that the popular theory is that these people left because they
couldn't stand the fact that people like Bertie were allowed to post here - doesn't seem plausible to me. *A more believeable reason is that they no longer got anything from being here - perhaps the majority of the discussions started to trend towards fluff and/or areas they simply weren't interested in. Both theories are correct. Having a troll in the group is similar to having a crying baby in a nice restaurant. All intelligent conversation ceases until the parents haul the kid out. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Jan 2, 7:24*am, Jay Honeck wrote:
Jay, you have probably KF'edme by now but here goes, I'm sorry if I've ever hurt your feelings here. *The only harsh words I've ever written here have been in response to what I perceived to be personal attacks, either on myself or others. Accepted, thank you. Until recently your contributions here have been well-done and valuable, and I truly don't understand your new-found need to personally attack me, or Jim, or anyone else here. Dont take my personal attacks personally. You made a pretty stong post around Xmas time about the state of this group. I suggested that you might (From time to time) foster the very problem you were complaining about. I will go back to lurking . F Baum |
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Dont take my personal attacks personally.
That would make a great signature line here! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote
Having a troll in the group is similar to having a crying baby in a nice restaurant. All intelligent conversation ceases until the parents haul the kid out. Not really - there is no way to ignore the sound of a crying baby. I sure wish all I would have to do is hit a delete key when our neighbor's dog is barking in the middle of the night, or a kid is kicking the back of my seat on the airplane, or a child is crying in the middle of the restaurant. I suspect the real problem is frustration with a lack of control over certain persons' presence here and at what they write, not that they are difficult to ignore. I probably read about 5-10% of what is posted here based on subject and poster, and ignore certain other threads/posts for various reasons. I find it pretty easy to do this without even using any filters. BDS |
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