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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Is there no end to your military ignorance? Like most that frequent this forum, I have far greater military knowledge than you. |
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Because a Battle Star is more than a "I was in the neighborhood ribbon". You get stationed in the area and you get a theater ribbon, the Battle Stars indicate participation in the action. What was the criteria for the award of the battle star? |
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Art asked:
How many missions did you have to fly to get an Air Medal? It varied with the a/c type and the location and the "powers that be". IIRC the count was 20. But a couple of mine were in transports so they don't mean as much. My brother,the helicopter pilot, has enough clusters to make his Air Medal Ribbon look like it is infected with someting and they were a lot harder for him to earn, therefore they mean much more to him.. It is all relative and anymore it can be political. The award that I am happiest about NOT having is the Purple Heart. That means I was lucky. Fate was on my side. Rick |
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Art asked:
How many missions did you have to fly to get an Air Medal? t varied with the a/c type and the location and the "powers that be". IIRC the count was 20. But a couple of mine were in transports so they don't mean as That's interesting. In WW II we got an air medal for evrry 5 missions. Later wars were judged to be less hazardous with lower losses per mission so the requirements were raised as high as 20 in later wars. I guess it means that 50 missions in WW II were the equivalent of 200 missions in later wars. So raw numbers don't mean much do they?. So when someone brags about how many missions they flew the best reply is: Really? Where and when? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Swift Boat Guys Caught in Some Great Big Lies
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 8/20/2004 10:16 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: . net "OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Because a Battle Star is more than a "I was in the neighborhood ribbon". You get stationed in the area and you get a theater ribbon, the Battle Stars indicate participation in the action. What was the criteria for the award of the battle star? You had to fight in the ****ing battle asshole. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Steve asked:
What was the criteria for the award of the battle star? You'll have to get that answer from one of the WWII guys. During that time I was about two years old. I think, repeat "think", don't know for sure that it was based on your personnel records, unit assignment, military specialty and dates. Military award regulations change all the time and I don't have access to the regulations or history Rick |
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Art wrote in response to:
What was the criteria for the award of the battle star? the following: You had to fight in the ****ing battle asshole. Calm down Art! He asked a legitimate question and deserved a better answer. Rick |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... You had to fight in the ****ing battle Do you have any idea what constituted fighting in the ****ing battle? asshole. Do you have any idea why you're unable to engage in civil discourse? |
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Art wrote:
That's interesting. In WW II we got an air medal for evrry 5 missions. Later wars were judged to be less hazardous with lower losses per mission so the requirements were raised as high as 20 in later wars. I guess it means that 50 missions in WW II were the equivalent of 200 missions in later wars. So raw numbers don't mean much do they?. So when someone brags about how many missions they flew the best reply is: Really? Where and when? Irrelevant Art! The enemy is still trying to kill you and you him. Define hazardous, current weapons systems are more lethal that the 88 and maybe more numerous per square mile in some locations. Detection systems are better, hence you are unlikely to avoid being shot at day or night. The key word in your comment is "brag", the quietest, most calm person I know has killed more people than I have even thought about and I do not want to **** him off. Real heroes are not apt to brag about their escapades. Rick |
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