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SeeYou MOBILE v2.0!
MOBILE:
We are very pleased to inform you of the Internet availability of SeeYou MOBILE Version 2.0 released June 30, 2004. There have been significant improvements over the 2004 SSA Convention version and you should go to the web site and download the free upgrade as soon as you have an opportunity: http://mobile.seeyou.ws/dload-mseeyou.php Be sure you have your PDA in its cradle and Active Sync running to facilitate the transfer and installation. There is also a PDF version of the Manual released June 30, 2004 in addition to the "On Screen" help within the program. You may find benefit in printing the Manual and carefully reading it to more fully comprehend all the power of version 2.0. I found it very useful. http://mobile.seeyou.ws/dload-help.php A significant concept, new to me, in MOBILE's moving map is using the L/D as the measure of ability to get to a given point or airport. You can set up two Nav Boxes on each map page with "Required L/D" and "Current Achieved L/D". I place Current above Required and can easily see my ability to make a given point and the safety margin. The "Altitude Reserve" you specified on the Mc/Wind page is included in the "Required L/D" calculation. You no longer need to think the larger numbers of altitude and elevation, just what kind of L/D (two digit numbers) you need compared with what you actually have. This automatically corrects for estimated wind, bugs, water ballast and sink! Other outstanding features include automatic START with the time displayed on the screen, Airspace Warnings and automatic logging of the flight from the received GPS data, not the log in a logger memory. Read the Manual so you don't miss the many important features so easy to use once you know how to activate them. SeeYou: You should also be running SeeYou v2.7 for the latest MOBILE Connection Wizard to easily transfer the desired Vector maps, waypoints, airports and airspace into your PDA. http://www.seeyou.ws/dload-seeyou.php Be sure you select the "UPGRADE" or you will loose your personal settings and registration key and have to reenter them. Check your SeeYou waypoint database to verify if the runways are properly aligned after removing the magnetic variation. That way they will display in the proper orientation on MOBILE's maps. The World Wide Turnpoint Exchange has a SeeYou.CUP version of each database under the "Files Formatted for Downloading" section. See the example for Harris Hill on the link below. You have to scroll down to http://acro.harvard.edu/SOARING/JL/T...ll//files.html You can easily verify if your waypoint database in SeeYou has the runway info or if you need to open and correct each point. If all the runways are aligned North-South nothing has been done to correct the database. You may also notice all are identified as PAVED RUNWAYS. Good luck and contact Andrej or me if you need help. I know you will spread the word once you start using it! Roy McMaster SeeYou© USA 265 Lew Storch Road Elmira, NY 14903-9345 607-734-4308 Office 607-738-8444 Cell 607-734-4309 FAX 607-734-4307 Home www.seeyou.ws www.mobile.seeyou.ws Lat. 42° 06.922'N, Long. 76° 53.832'W Soaring Pilots use SeeYou and MOBILE! |
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I've been playing with this the last few days and find
it to be very impressive - at least on the ground. It has a rich feature set a very clean interface (if a bit of an eye test) and seems to be quite stable. It appears that it is now competition-ready. Nice job! 9B At 17:48 07 July 2004, Roy McMaster wrote: MOBILE: We are very pleased to inform you of the Internet availability of SeeYou MOBILE Version 2.0 released June 30, 2004. There have been significant improvements over the 2004 SSA Convention version and you should go to the web site and download the free upgrade as soon as you have an opportunity: http://mobile.seeyou.ws/dload-mseeyou.php Be sure you have your PDA in its cradle and Active Sync running to facilitate the transfer and installation. There is also a PDF version of the Manual released June 30, 2004 in addition to the 'On Screen' help within the program. You may find benefit in printing the Manual and carefully reading it to more fully comprehend all the power of version 2.0. I found it very useful. http://mobile.seeyou.ws/dload-help.php A significant concept, new to me, in MOBILE's moving map is using the L/D as the measure of ability to get to a given point or airport. You can set up two Nav Boxes on each map page with 'Required L/D' and 'Current Achieved L/D'. I place Current above Required and can easily see my ability to make a given point and the safety margin. The 'Altitude Reserve' you specified on the Mc/Wind page is included in the 'Required L/D' calculation. You no longer need to think the larger numbers of altitude and elevation, just what kind of L/D (two digit numbers) you need compared with what you actually have. This automatically corrects for estimated wind, bugs, water ballast and sink! Other outstanding features include automatic START with the time displayed on the screen, Airspace Warnings and automatic logging of the flight from the received GPS data, not the log in a logger memory. Read the Manual so you don't miss the many important features so easy to use once you know how to activate them. SeeYou: You should also be running SeeYou v2.7 for the latest MOBILE Connection Wizard to easily transfer the desired Vector maps, waypoints, airports and airspace into your PDA. http://www.seeyou.ws/dload-seeyou.php Be sure you select the 'UPGRADE' or you will loose your personal settings and registration key and have to reenter them. Check your SeeYou waypoint database to verify if the runways are properly aligned after removing the magnetic variation. That way they will display in the proper orientation on MOBILE's maps. The World Wide Turnpoint Exchange has a SeeYou.CUP version of each database under the 'Files Formatted for Downloading' section. See the example for Harris Hill on the link below. You have to scroll down to http://acro.harvard.edu/SOARING/JL/T...ll//files.html You can easily verify if your waypoint database in SeeYou has the runway info or if you need to open and correct each point. If all the runways are aligned North-South nothing has been done to correct the database. You may also notice all are identified as PAVED RUNWAYS. Good luck and contact Andrej or me if you need help. I know you will spread the word once you start using it! Roy McMaster SeeYou© USA 265 Lew Storch Road Elmira, NY 14903-9345 607-734-4308 Office 607-738-8444 Cell 607-734-4309 FAX 607-734-4307 Home www.seeyou.ws www.mobile.seeyou.ws Lat. 42° 06.922'N, Long. 76° 53.832'W Soaring Pilots use SeeYou and MOBILE! |
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Roy,
Thanks for the update. Can you recommend the optimal (performance-based, not price-based) hardware set up? Thanks |
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I wish SeeYou offered a Apple OS/X or Linux version (I hate Windows) Regards, Oscar. |
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Hmm...
Let's see, 12 Linux users, 53 Mac OS users and 500,000,000 Windows users. I wonder which OS provides the best opportunity for profit? I hate lima beans. ;-} Allan "Oscar S Alonso" wrote in message news:2004070908333616807%oalonso@ciscocom... I wish SeeYou offered a Apple OS/X or Linux version (I hate Windows) Regards, Oscar. |
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Funny, I suppose, but SeeYou and Topo USA are the only
reason I'm still running that piece of s^%t hacker-magnet OS from Redmond. I love the new Mac OS, and Fedora Linux is amazingly polished. David "ADP" wrote in message ... Hmm... Let's see, 12 Linux users, 53 Mac OS users and 500,000,000 Windows users. I wonder which OS provides the best opportunity for profit? I hate lima beans. ;-} Allan "Oscar S Alonso" wrote in message news:2004070908333616807%oalonso@ciscocom... I wish SeeYou offered a Apple OS/X or Linux version (I hate Windows) Regards, Oscar. |
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Martin Gregorie wrote:
Simple answer: follow the NOTAMplot lead and write desktop soaring software in Java so we can all have copies regardless of which OS we run. Like all simple answers, it's wrong: Java is portable because of the JVM (Java Virtual Machine), this is a java processor which runs in software on the host machine. As many people have learned to their cost, you pay for this abstraction in compute cycles (lots of them!) - thus Java is SLOW. Unless you know of a source of very high speed PDA's which can also support LARGE amounts of RAM, then this one is a dead duck. You'll need both to support the kind of functions you now find in the PDA flight director systems on offer: e.g. moving map, support for different projections, etc. They are all written in C++ anyway, and that is the architypal portable language which also has the required performance even on PDA's, so why not port SeeYou (or whatever) to a Linux PDA? Better yet, use Cumulus and give some support to that (it runs under OPIE on PPC devices, or on any linux PDA): http://cumulus.kflog.org http://cumulus.kflog.org Rgds, Derrick Steed |
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(Chris OCallaghan) wrote in message . com...
Roy, Thanks for the update. Can you recommend the optimal (performance-based, not price-based) hardware set up? Thanks Go to the MOBILE web site and check out the compatible hardwa http://mobile.seeyou.ws/hardware.php There are many options. Paul Remde's Cumulus Soaring Supplies has lots of connection wires and mounts for various configurations of almost all systems. |
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On 10 Jul 2004 10:58:14 GMT, Derrick Steed
wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: Simple answer: follow the NOTAMplot lead and write desktop soaring software in Java so we can all have copies regardless of which OS we run. Like all simple answers, it's wrong: Java is portable because of the JVM (Java Virtual Machine), this is a java processor which runs in software on the host machine. I know that and its not as slow as you may think. This is said from the perspective of doing Java development on a 133 MHz PC. What IS very slow and uses cycles like crazy is loading classes from JAR files: not only do you have to search the file, but you need to expand it first. Once an application has all its classes loaded it actually runs pretty fast. A properly designed and implemented VM isn't slow - in the good old days of COBOL and mainframes I used a 4GL, Filetab. It was implemented, like Perl, as a compile-and-go script with the result run in a VM. That executed as fast as a well-written COBOL program and faster than a badly written one. As many people have learned to their cost, you pay for this abstraction in compute cycles (lots of them!) - thus Java is SLOW. Unless you know of a source of very high speed PDA's which can also support LARGE amounts of RAM, then this one is a dead duck. You'll need both to support the kind of functions you now find in the PDA flight director systems on offer: e.g. moving map, support for different projections, etc. Errm, I did say DESKTOP applications. They are all written in C++ anyway, and that is the architypal portable language which also has the required performance even on PDA's, and is noticeably less efficient in cycles burnt than plain ANSI C. so why not port SeeYou (or whatever) to a Linux PDA? I'd settle for ports to a plain Linux desktop - as I said, I wasn't talking about PDA software. However, if Java is practical on a Palm, which it is, then it should fly on an Intel-based PDA unless WinCE really sucks in the efficiency department. -- martin@ : Martin Gregorie gregorie : Harlow, UK demon : co : Zappa fan & glider pilot uk : |
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