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  #21  
Old October 26th 19, 10:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Duster[_2_]
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From OLC, you can download anyone's log into flight review software such as Naviter's SeeYou in 2D or 3D (free version available https://www.naviter.com/products/seeyou/). With SeeYou one is able to study a bunch of statistics on the flight and compare it with any other flight you choose over the same route (e.g., #thermals [right v. left handed and efficiency of each], L/D, etc. One can also merge and replay 2 or more flights from different start times/dates for comparison. Great tools.
  #22  
Old October 29th 19, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 2:20:34 PM UTC-4, Mike N. wrote:
I am looking for articles / videos on how to compete well on OLC.

How to get the best scoring, What type of tasks are better than others, or just working in OLC flying in general.

Any links to articles or videos, or whatever would be useful.

For others as well as myself I'm sure.


Hi Mike, Daniel's comments are best. We're having a Cross Country Camp at Caesar Creek Soaring Club next August. If you can't make it, let me know and maybe you can log in to our contest every night at 7 pm. Do you fly in the regular contest around the world?
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Old October 29th 19, 07:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 6:17:21 AM UTC-7, Mike N. wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 4:00:39 AM UTC-4, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 8:20:34 PM UTC+2, Mike N. wrote:
I am looking for articles / videos on how to compete well on OLC.

How to get the best scoring, What type of tasks are better than others, or just working in OLC flying in general.

Any links to articles or videos, or whatever would be useful.

For others as well as myself I'm sure.



Get Condor and spend the winter practising against the best pilots in online competitions. If you can get into the top ten doing that you'll be in great shape for next season. You may have to fly at odd times though, because the best pilots are flying in EU time zone.


Also a good idea I will follow up on.


Mike,

If you want to score high on OLC, and I mean that you are regularly placing in the top 10 and winning some days, you have to go to a site that will support these kind of flights. In the US, that means Ely, NV and Moriarity, NM (TX can be good later in the season). And in Ely you will need a motorglider as there no longer is an operator providing tows (some have arranged for private tows, but this is limited). Just go back and see on OLC where the top flights are being flown. Then, you will have to be prepared to do long flights (7-10 hours), both physically and mentally. And you will have to prepare each day with a very thorough weather analysis. Finally, you just have to do it, trying and, sometimes, failing.
BTW, you will also have to be patient, willing to wait days or weeks for the optimal weather to appear.

Tom
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Old October 29th 19, 06:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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2G wrote on 10/28/2019 11:19 PM:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 6:17:21 AM UTC-7, Mike N. wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 4:00:39 AM UTC-4, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 8:20:34 PM UTC+2, Mike N. wrote:
I am looking for articles / videos on how to compete well on OLC.

How to get the best scoring, What type of tasks are better than others,
or just working in OLC flying in general.

Any links to articles or videos, or whatever would be useful.

For others as well as myself I'm sure.


Get Condor and spend the winter practising against the best pilots in
online competitions. If you can get into the top ten doing that you'll be
in great shape for next season. You may have to fly at odd times though,
because the best pilots are flying in EU time zone.


Also a good idea I will follow up on.


Mike,

If you want to score high on OLC, and I mean that you are regularly placing in
the top 10 and winning some days, you have to go to a site that will support
these kind of flights. In the US, that means Ely, NV and Moriarity, NM (TX can
be good later in the season). And in Ely you will need a motorglider as there
no longer is an operator providing tows (some have arranged for private tows,
but this is limited). Just go back and see on OLC where the top flights are
being flown. Then, you will have to be prepared to do long flights (7-10
hours), both physically and mentally. And you will have to prepare each day
with a very thorough weather analysis. Finally, you just have to do it, trying
and, sometimes, failing. BTW, you will also have to be patient, willing to wait
days or weeks for the optimal weather to appear.


The areas Tom lists are good for doing well the USA (I would add the Allegheny
ridges), but if you want to do well in the world, you also need to fly in the
southern hemisphere, and include places like Namibia and the Andes. Obviously,
doing that is hugely expensive and time consuming! There are alternatives, if you
want to improve your abilities, and not just score well on distance tasks:

1) Since the OLC makes it easy to pick the area in which you want to compete,
anywhere from a single airport to the world, you can challenge yourself
meaningfully with much less time and money than going to all those places.

2) You can also choose to compete in the speed tasks and skip the physically
grueling distance flights.


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- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
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Old October 30th 19, 03:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 10:57:55 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 10/28/2019 11:19 PM:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 6:17:21 AM UTC-7, Mike N. wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 4:00:39 AM UTC-4, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 8:20:34 PM UTC+2, Mike N. wrote:
I am looking for articles / videos on how to compete well on OLC.

How to get the best scoring, What type of tasks are better than others,
or just working in OLC flying in general.

Any links to articles or videos, or whatever would be useful.

For others as well as myself I'm sure.


Get Condor and spend the winter practising against the best pilots in
online competitions. If you can get into the top ten doing that you'll be
in great shape for next season. You may have to fly at odd times though,
because the best pilots are flying in EU time zone.

Also a good idea I will follow up on.


Mike,

If you want to score high on OLC, and I mean that you are regularly placing in
the top 10 and winning some days, you have to go to a site that will support
these kind of flights. In the US, that means Ely, NV and Moriarity, NM (TX can
be good later in the season). And in Ely you will need a motorglider as there
no longer is an operator providing tows (some have arranged for private tows,
but this is limited). Just go back and see on OLC where the top flights are
being flown. Then, you will have to be prepared to do long flights (7-10
hours), both physically and mentally. And you will have to prepare each day
with a very thorough weather analysis. Finally, you just have to do it, trying
and, sometimes, failing. BTW, you will also have to be patient, willing to wait
days or weeks for the optimal weather to appear.


The areas Tom lists are good for doing well the USA (I would add the Allegheny
ridges), but if you want to do well in the world, you also need to fly in the
southern hemisphere, and include places like Namibia and the Andes. Obviously,
doing that is hugely expensive and time consuming! There are alternatives, if you
want to improve your abilities, and not just score well on distance tasks:

1) Since the OLC makes it easy to pick the area in which you want to compete,
anywhere from a single airport to the world, you can challenge yourself
meaningfully with much less time and money than going to all those places..

2) You can also choose to compete in the speed tasks and skip the physically
grueling distance flights.


--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1


You can place high on, and even win, OLC by flying at the right places in the US at the right times. The major obstacle is that long distance flights in the US have been made on the Sierra Nevadas by instrument-rated pilots. Getting an instrument rating is probably easier and cheaper than the logistics of flying in Argentina (you can't drive to Argentina!). And you can always do nearly as good flights VFR on the Sierras.

Tom
  #26  
Old October 30th 19, 08:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Charles Longley
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I’ve never thought of flying IFR in a glider. You’re just talking to get above 18,000 right. Hmm I am instrument rated...
  #27  
Old October 30th 19, 07:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I just entered the Belgian Condor contest.

I am looking for the other U.S. contest on condor-club.eu and am not seeing them.

I did recently fly a mountain / OLC camp in Logan UT. I would certainly love to fly more soaring camps. As time and travel allows. I am not yet retired so have to plan vacation time appropriately.
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Old October 30th 19, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 2:08:16 PM UTC-4, Mike N. wrote:
I just entered the Belgian Condor contest.

I am looking for the other U.S. contest on condor-club.eu and am not seeing them.

I did recently fly a mountain / OLC camp in Logan UT. I would certainly love to fly more soaring camps. As time and travel allows. I am not yet retired so have to plan vacation time appropriately.


Check out gliderracing.com for US Nightly Soaring and Monday Night Soaring.

All the best,
Daniel
  #29  
Old October 31st 19, 12:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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BTW, the URL (http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php) listed in the Nightly Soaring section of gliderracing.com is broken since the release of Condor2. The correct URL to get to the list of servers hosting multiplayer contests is now http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist/ (No .php extension on the end).

RS

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:14:44 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 2:08:16 PM UTC-4, Mike N. wrote:
I just entered the Belgian Condor contest.

I am looking for the other U.S. contest on condor-club.eu and am not seeing them.

I did recently fly a mountain / OLC camp in Logan UT. I would certainly love to fly more soaring camps. As time and travel allows. I am not yet retired so have to plan vacation time appropriately.


Check out gliderracing.com for US Nightly Soaring and Monday Night Soaring.

All the best,
Daniel


 




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