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Gear Warning
Mark, the radio check is not transmission check (although announcing
you are in the pattern is always a good idea), it is frequency check (I often hear pilots calling their pattern on the wrong frequency they used for air to air), and volume check to make sure your volume is not down since your last low save. I am very suprised to hear that most pilots in the UK can not use the radio legally, or am I missing something? I agree the list should kept to minmum, but your list has an item which very much belongs to takeoff checklist, not landing list, unless I missundersood it: Loose articles (including straps) - I rather eliminate those *prior* to take off. Ramy |
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Gear Warning
Mark Dickson wrote:
At 21:36 20 November 2005, Eric Greenwell wrote: To ensure they do operate (freezing shut is not the only way for them to fail) and to activate the gear warning device. The radio check may be valid in the States but isn't necessary in the UK. Is that because the field frequency is the same as the one you use during the flight, or because the glider fields you use don't use a radio in the pattern? I'm assuming you'd use the radio at a regular airport with mixed traffic. If you checked your airbrakes at the DI and prior to take-off, and you have not been flying in icing conditions, they will open when you want them to. I've never heard of airbrakes failing in flight and if they did so what? I had the airbrakes on a Blanik fail to open on the pre-landing checks, even though they operated correctly before takeoff. The sheet metal lip caught on the edge of the spoiler box, a problem that didn't show up in the heat of the afternoon. So, I'm sensitive to this. I agree it's rare. You'll find out when you unlock them on base leg. Base leg? I generally don't open them until I turn final. I don't like opening them on base leg because it makes the turn to final occur at a lower altitude, and it raises the stall speed. I will open them on the base leg, or even downwind if it's very important to land as soon as possible, but not for a normal landing. As for opening them to activate the gear warner, well that sounds a bit Irish to me. How about carrying out the gear part of the checks? Great idea, which I fully support, but in the first 1500 hours I flew, I missed it three times due to distractions. I know other pilots that have also done the same thing, and are pleased they had a gear warner. I don't know any pilot that is unhappy he installed one. The UK position was quite a surprise to me. If US pilots routinely landed on grass fields instead of paved ones, perhaps they would not like gear warners so much. The radio is not a necessary part of pre-landing checks, I and any other glider pilot in the UK would be very unpopular if they landed at an airport; and if you were tempted to, the radio call should be made well before the point at which the pre-landing checks are carried out. (Most glider pilots in the UK do not have RT licences and so couldn't legally make the calls anyway). This is very different from the situation in the US, where flying from and landing at public airports is common (mostly non-towered municipal airports). We are expected to announce our intended landing at the airport from about 5 miles out, then pattern entry, and typically the turns to base and final. The frequency is different from the glider frequency. Doing it on the wrong frequency isn't useful. A license is not required in the US. The point I'm trying to make Eric is that for checks to be effective and not missed, they should only include those things that are really necessary to check. Agreed. The pre-landing checks I, and a lot of clubs use, are WULF: waterballast, U/C, loose articles(including straps) and flaps. In my opinion that is all you need to methodically check to make a safe approach and landing, anything else (apart maybe for radio in the States, as you obviously do land at airports) is superfluous. I also think these checks should be done prior to joining the circuit, so that there are no distractions from carrying them out and so that full concentration can be given to flying the glider around the pattern and looking out for other a/c on the ground and in the air. Agreed. I typically do them on the 45 degree entry to the downwind leg, or the crosswind leg. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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