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#11
September 17th 04, 03:53 PM
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"Gary Boggs" wrote in message ... It's too bad our ridge is 3 miles away. It's just a little too far to get to from a winch launch. I did catch the wave from a winch launch right over the airport, climbed to 9K, and then flew to our main wave behind 11,240 foot Mt. Hood. Normally it's hard to get away from our airport from a winch launch though. What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. Modern high performance winches will deliver more than 2000' pretty consistently. How much room do you have for a winch operation? Bill Daniels 
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#12
September 17th 04, 04:17 PM
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About 3000 feet.
"Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:KTC2d.316855$8_6.86703@attbi_s04... "Gary Boggs" wrote in message ... It's too bad our ridge is 3 miles away. It's just a little too far to get to from a winch launch. I did catch the wave from a winch launch right over the airport, climbed to 9K, and then flew to our main wave behind 11,240 foot Mt. Hood. Normally it's hard to get away from our airport from a winch launch though. What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. Modern high performance winches will deliver more than 2000' pretty consistently. How much room do you have for a winch operation? Bill Daniels
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#13
September 17th 04, 05:15 PM
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"Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:KTC2d.316855$8_6.86703@attbi_s04... What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. To only loose 300 in three miles you need 53:1
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#14
September 17th 04, 08:29 PM
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My understanding is the airport manager told HCS that
they couldn't operate without business insurance. Apparently, it was precipitated by an incident involving the HCS oxygen cart and a taxiing aircraft. It's a pity -- Tom and Bill have been ornaments to the sport for so long. 9B At 04:42 17 September 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote: Lord Struthers wrote: Two sitting idle at Minden, now that HCS is gone. Rich High Country Soaring is out of business? What happened? -- Change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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#15
September 17th 04, 09:00 PM
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Our strip is 3000ft and most of the single seaters get between 1400-1700 ft
with using polyprop rope instead of wire on the winch ,do a search in the newsgroup archives and you will get a lot of info. All boiled down it comes to ,its cheap ,available everywhere,lighter so the glider carries less weight, stores energy by stretching slightly so initial acceleration is very rapid , initial climb turns to full climb very quickly = more height at launch end. gary "Gary Boggs" wrote in message ... About 3000 feet. "Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:KTC2d.316855$8_6.86703@attbi_s04... "Gary Boggs" wrote in message ... It's too bad our ridge is 3 miles away. It's just a little too far to get to from a winch launch. I did catch the wave from a winch launch right over the airport, climbed to 9K, and then flew to our main wave behind 11,240 foot Mt. Hood. Normally it's hard to get away from our airport from a winch launch though. What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. Modern high performance winches will deliver more than 2000' pretty consistently. How much room do you have for a winch operation? Bill Daniels
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#16
September 18th 04, 01:01 AM
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"mm" wrote in message ... "Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:KTC2d.316855$8_6.86703@attbi_s04... What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. To only loose 300 in three miles you need 53:1 Oops! Thinking in Nimbus terms. Bill Daniels
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#17
September 18th 04, 07:02 AM
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I've got my winch video up on my web site, check it out!
http://www.nwskysports.com/video.html Gary Boggs, CFIG 3650 Airport Drive Hood River, OR 97031-9613 541.490.5557 503.708.8869 "Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:lVK2d.107953$3l3.23853@attbi_s03... "mm" wrote in message ... "Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:KTC2d.316855$8_6.86703@attbi_s04... What if you could increase the winch release height to more than 2000 feet? Three miles at 35:1 in a modern trainer would lose maybe 300 feet and you could still get back if the ridge isn't working. To only loose 300 in three miles you need 53:1 Oops! Thinking in Nimbus terms. Bill Daniels
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#18
September 18th 04, 07:03 AM
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Gary Boggs wrote:
I've got my winch video up on my web site, check it out! Uh, I know I shouldn't believe my lyin' eyes, but the 'winch' seems to be driving down a taxiway, then along an access road. A truly amazing device. Cool video, nonetheless 8^) Marc
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#19
September 18th 04, 03:49 PM
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Marc Ramsey wrote:
Gary Boggs wrote: I've got my winch video up on my web site, check it out! Uh, I know I shouldn't believe my lyin' eyes, but the 'winch' seems to be driving down a taxiway, then along an access road. A truly amazing device. Cool video, nonetheless 8^) It's a payout winch, so your lyin' eyes won't even need a new glasses prescription! -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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#20
September 18th 04, 05:01 PM
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All,
I've seen the payout winch in the (flesh?, steel?)round. It's mounted on the bak of a truck and is extremely well thoght out. Even more intrigueing is that it appears to be made out of "recycled parts". Gary should write an article for soaring on it and offer shematics or something. Also Gary, what is your source for the synthetic you are using for a launch cable? Cheers! "Eric Greenwell" wrote in message ... Marc Ramsey wrote: Gary Boggs wrote: I've got my winch video up on my web site, check it out! Uh, I know I shouldn't believe my lyin' eyes, but the 'winch' seems to be driving down a taxiway, then along an access road. A truly amazing device. Cool video, nonetheless 8^) It's a payout winch, so your lyin' eyes won't even need a new glasses prescription! -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA
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