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IIRC, I believe the Kitty Hawk is the oldest in the fleet now...and now the last conventional. The Kitty Hawk is home based in Japan, which will not allow a nuclear carrier in their ports for fear of resurecting Godzilla. Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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RM, CR Division USS America 1983 - 1987.
"Grumman-581" wrote in message . .. "Jeff Franks" wrote ... IIRC, I believe the Kitty Hawk is the oldest in the fleet now...and now the last conventional. The America is no longer in service? When I was stationed aboard the Nimitz, the America was also there in Norfolk... I knew some guys from ET 'A' school who were stationed aboard her... Now, if they would take some of these carriers that they are retiring and sink them as artifical reefs, that would make for some interesting diving... |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... In article , Big John wrote: [snipped] As an aside, what did Jimmy ever do to warrant naming a carrier after him ( iirc, during his administration the Navy buildup was started. I thought Carter was the man who presided over the "Hollow Navy" at the time the Soviets had announced their intention to build a true blue-water fleet with long reach. Reagan was the man who started the build-up to a "600 Ship Navy", wasn't he? Chip, ZTL |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Jeff Franks wrote: IIRC, I believe the Kitty Hawk is the oldest in the fleet now...and now the last conventional. According to the CV-64 news, Constellation is "one of only three remaining conventionally powered aircraft carriers in its arsenal." And, since the Constellation won't actually be decommissioned for a few more weeks, there are still three in the fleet. The Constellation, the Kitty Hawk, and the John F. Kennedy are the three remaining CV's. |
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Bob Noel wrote: iirc, during his administration the Navy buildup was started. Not hardly. Reagan and John Lehman built the Navy back up. |
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"Newps" wrote Bob Noel wrote: iirc, during his administration the Navy buildup was started. Not hardly. Reagan and John Lehman built the Navy back up. When Carter took office, the Navy had about 182 surface warships. When he left office, the Navy had 196. When Reagan left office, that number had grown to 212. That's a 7.7% growth under Carter and a 8.1% growth under Reagan. That's rather insignificant, IMO, especially since the *overall* strength (including non-surface warships) only changed by *eight* from the time Carter left office to when Reagan left office. Carrier forces increased by one. Carter added 10 subs; Reagan 12. One thing Reagan did do was postpone the retirement of some ships and bring others out of mothballs to increase the strength during his Presidency. Obviously there's been a major force reduction since then with the end of the Cold War and the Navy has the fewest number of surface warships now since 1921, IIRC. At any rate, Carter was President when the Navy started to grow again after the post-Vietnam force reduction. |
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Six lashes with a wet noodle ( Thought I read someplace that one of the next new carriers would be 'Carter' but must have dozed and blinked when I was reading GShows how exciting the reading was. A sub would be more appropriate since he was in that service. Being President, no matter how smart or dumb you were, probably warrants something to commensurate you? Thanks for getting me back on the track. My train sometimes takes the wrong turn at a 'Y with the speed I'm running'. Need to slow down below Mach One I guess G Big John On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:47:18 GMT, "Wolfie" wrote: "Big John" wrote The "Jimmy Carter" is under construction and will probably replace the one that is oldest now. The next carrier (the 10th Nimitz class) will be the "USS George H. W. Bush." The "USS Jimmy Carter" will be a Seawolf class submarine. As an aside, what did Jimmy ever do to warrant naming a carrier after him ( He graduated (with distinction) from the US Naval Academy, for one. Served seven years in the Navy for another, including being selected by Rickover for the nuclear navy. He resigned to take over the family business when his father died or he'd probably never have went into politics. All in all, I'd say he's *far* more appropriate a choice than Reagan. And arguably a better choice than Bush. But he gets a sub named after him, which seems to be appropriate since he's the only submariner to serve as President. As an another aside, ships also have sponsors, as Nancy Reagan is for the USS Ronald Reagan and Rosalind Carter is for the USS Jimmy Carter. For the USS George HW Bush? Doro B. Koch, Bush's daughter. What's up with that? Koch is the Bush's sponsor? |
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The navy got to 600 ships under Reagan(or was it 500? I forget, it was
some large round number.) Wolfie wrote: "Newps" wrote Bob Noel wrote: iirc, during his administration the Navy buildup was started. Not hardly. Reagan and John Lehman built the Navy back up. When Carter took office, the Navy had about 182 surface warships. When he left office, the Navy had 196. When Reagan left office, that number had grown to 212. That's a 7.7% growth under Carter and a 8.1% growth under Reagan. That's rather insignificant, IMO, especially since the *overall* strength (including non-surface warships) only changed by *eight* from the time Carter left office to when Reagan left office. Carrier forces increased by one. Carter added 10 subs; Reagan 12. One thing Reagan did do was postpone the retirement of some ships and bring others out of mothballs to increase the strength during his Presidency. Obviously there's been a major force reduction since then with the end of the Cold War and the Navy has the fewest number of surface warships now since 1921, IIRC. At any rate, Carter was President when the Navy started to grow again after the post-Vietnam force reduction. |
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"Newps" wrote The navy got to 600 ships under Reagan(or was it 500? I forget, it was some large round number.) Close but not quite. Post-Vietnam peak was 594 total active ships (with 223 surface warfare ships, 14 carriers, and 139 submarines) in 1987. I wouldn't rule out a "publicity stunt" active force of 600 at some moment, though, although the Navy provides the above peak numbers officially. |
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