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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
I took my daughter to Linden Airport (that's in New Jersey). We stood
with a small crowd at the fence on the shopping mall side as planes took off and landed. (This is where I got my interest in flying many years ago.) Presently a mall security truck drove up and the guard told us to disperse because we were breaking the law. When one woman asked what law, he seemed at a loss for a moment, then muttered "national security." He then said he was calling the police. He drove away, glaring at us. The police never came, but the guard came back, more belligerent than before. Now he started shouting at the crowd and reaching for his baton. I told him, "You hit me, and my lawyer will eat you for breakfast." The rest of the crowd stood nearby, watching as he stared hard at me. The "guard" put the baton away and backed up to his truck. He said "I'm calling the police" again and drove away. I wonder how many kids who could have grown up into pilots have been chased away by this slug and others like him. AJ |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
Threats of being beaten by a mall security guard with a baton have
undoubtably scared thousands and thousands of would-be pilots off. This urgent issue should be addressed promptly by the AOPA. |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
It was Mall security, not airport security? Did you complain to the
Mall management? Ben Hallert PP-ASEL |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
"AJ" wrote in message ups.com... I took my daughter to Linden Airport (that's in New Jersey). We stood with a small crowd at the fence on the shopping mall side as planes took off and landed. (This is where I got my interest in flying many years ago.) Presently a mall security truck drove up and the guard told us to disperse because we were breaking the law. When one woman asked what law, he seemed at a loss for a moment, then muttered "national security." He then said he was calling the police. He drove away, glaring at us. The police never came, but the guard came back, more belligerent than before. Now he started shouting at the crowd and reaching for his baton. I told him, "You hit me, and my lawyer will eat you for breakfast." The rest of the crowd stood nearby, watching as he stared hard at me. The "guard" put the baton away and backed up to his truck. He said "I'm calling the police" again and drove away. I wonder how many kids who could have grown up into pilots have been chased away by this slug and others like him. Did you advise mall management that there was an idiot posing as mall security? |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
In article . com,
"AJ" wrote: I wonder how many kids who could have grown up into pilots have been chased away by this slug and others like him. Shopping mall security seems to have a superiority complex, though if I had to deal with some of the roving "packs" of kids I see in and around some of these malls, I'd probably be bent out of shape all the time also... mostly at the parents. I suspect that most malls are privately owned, so if you are on mall property, you can be asked to leave or risk trespass. My wife and I were once harassed by two Chicago Police officers when we approached the Meigs Field terminal several years ago... this was in the late 1990s, after the police had "confiscated" the second floor of the terminal to use as office space. We were asked about our business at the airport, to which we responded that we were pilots who had never been to Meigs and wanted to look inside the terminal. At that point, we were promptly told to leave the property because the airport "isn't open to the public." We came back later, when we encountered no police and were able to enter the terminal and observation deck. We all know how that book eventually ended. JKG |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
My wife and I were once harassed by two Chicago Police officers when we
approached the Meigs Field terminal several years ago... this was in the late 1990s, after the police had "confiscated" the second floor of the terminal to use as office space. We were asked about our business at the airport, to which we responded that we were pilots who had never been to Meigs and wanted to look inside the terminal. At that point, we were promptly told to leave the property because the airport "isn't open to the public." We came back later, when we encountered no police and were able to enter the terminal and observation deck. We all know how that book eventually ended. When Mary and I landed at Meigs, shortly after the airspace re-opened in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, we were appalled at the way we were treated. My then-8 year old daughter was "wanded" by a "security officer" (who, at well over 300 pounds, certainly could not have provided much security). We were not permitted to walk off the peninsula to get into downtown -- we were REQUIRED to take a cab. We were treated contemptuously by people who were being paid to guard US. Our cab driver, a middle-eastern-looking guy, didn't understand the added security road blocks, and blithely drove right past a bunch of Chicago cops waving their hands around wildly. I thought we were going to be shot, right there. Chicago was paying probably 15 of these Keystone Cops to "secure" Meigs. What a bunch of morons. (Perhaps one of them has found a new job, "guarding" your mall?) If any mall "security" officer treated me the way you described, I'd march his sorry cop-wannabee ass into the mall office. Mall management needs to know what's going on with this doofus. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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In article
outaviation.com, "Skylune" wrote: At least you take some responsibility for tresspassing and the result: ultimate closure of the airport. Has the line, "We are pilots" worked in other situations, like when you are pulled over in your car? You know, I was just thinking about how appropriate your online moniker is while I was reading some of your other moronic postings... or should I say, trolls. JKG |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message ... In article . com, "AJ" wrote: I wonder how many kids who could have grown up into pilots have been chased away by this slug and others like him. Shopping mall security seems to have a superiority complex, though if I had to deal with some of the roving "packs" of kids I see in and around some of these malls, I'd probably be bent out of shape all the time also... mostly at the parents. I suspect that most malls are privately owned, so if you are on mall property, you can be asked to leave or risk trespass. My wife and I were once harassed by two Chicago Police officers when we approached the Meigs Field terminal several years ago... this was in the late 1990s, after the police had "confiscated" the second floor of the terminal to use as office space. We were asked about our business at the airport, to which we responded that we were pilots who had never been to Meigs and wanted to look inside the terminal. At that point, we were promptly told to leave the property because the airport "isn't open to the public." We came back later, when we encountered no police and were able to enter the terminal and observation deck. We all know how that book eventually ended. JKG In Chicago a cop being sent to airport duty is worse than being fired. It's where they send all the screw-ups. It's cheaper and easier than fighting the union to get them fired. |
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Why thank you, Jonathan. I chose the moniker quite carefully. After
rejecting several, I chose Skylune as my screen name. (Its actually a takeoff on my longtime Yahoo screen name, Skilune -- you can visit me on Yahoo chess where I like to practice.) This forum is a great source of information and, yes!, entertainment for me in my quest to SAVE THE WORLD from GA. |
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Bullying desguised (badly) as precaution
This forum is a great source of information and, yes!, entertainment for
me in my quest to SAVE THE WORLD from GA. Thus proving that there really *is* one born every minute. Wouldn't it be nice if all the nut jobs restricted themselves to saving the world for snail darters, red tailed owls, and hump-back whales? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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