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"B2431" wrote in message ... From: Stephen Harding Cub Driver wrote: It is still, even with the passage of 30 years, not possible to view Nixon in an impartial, non-prejudiced manner. I certainly can't! Thirty years from now, people will likely be saying the same about Clinton. I think Clinton will be neither "good" nor "bad". He'll be one of those presidents that no one knows too much about, like an Arthur or Cleveland. Nixon on the other hand, is going to be more favorably judged by history than by his contemporaries IMHO. People are certainly going to know about him, whatever way history ultimately decides. Clinton will be remembered the same way Andrew Johnson is: only for his impeachment. I believe some still remember Andrew holding up Reconstruction; resulting in four more years of slavery, for some. |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:51:49 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote: "B2431" wrote in message ... From: Stephen Harding Cub Driver wrote: It is still, even with the passage of 30 years, not possible to view Nixon in an impartial, non-prejudiced manner. I certainly can't! Thirty years from now, people will likely be saying the same about Clinton. I think Clinton will be neither "good" nor "bad". He'll be one of those presidents that no one knows too much about, like an Arthur or Cleveland. Nixon on the other hand, is going to be more favorably judged by history than by his contemporaries IMHO. People are certainly going to know about him, whatever way history ultimately decides. Clinton will be remembered the same way Andrew Johnson is: only for his impeachment. I believe some still remember Andrew holding up Reconstruction; resulting in four more years of slavery, for some. A bit off topic, but I think Andrew suffered from a Later Johnson's problem-- he wasn' charasmatic and had a hard time working with others. But let's not forget that Lincolns original reconstruction plan was very lenient to the South, so if he lived, the same thing might be said of him. Of course, MY opinion (and I'm texan by family), was that what was needed was somethig very much like what Germany and Japan got in terms of occupation and "De-southifacation" Of course, at the time, such an idea would havd been most arrant fantasy. |
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"Charles Gray" wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:51:49 -0800, "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "B2431" wrote in message ... From: Stephen Harding Cub Driver wrote: It is still, even with the passage of 30 years, not possible to view Nixon in an impartial, non-prejudiced manner. I certainly can't! Thirty years from now, people will likely be saying the same about Clinton. I think Clinton will be neither "good" nor "bad". He'll be one of those presidents that no one knows too much about, like an Arthur or Cleveland. Nixon on the other hand, is going to be more favorably judged by history than by his contemporaries IMHO. People are certainly going to know about him, whatever way history ultimately decides. Clinton will be remembered the same way Andrew Johnson is: only for his impeachment. I believe some still remember Andrew holding up Reconstruction; resulting in four more years of slavery, for some. A bit off topic, but I think Andrew suffered from a Later Johnson's problem-- he wasn' charasmatic and had a hard time working with others. But let's not forget that Lincolns original reconstruction plan was very lenient to the South, so if he lived, the same thing might be said of him. Let us not forget that Congress and the States ratified the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865. Let us not forget that congress and the States then ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, in support of the Enforcement of the Thirteenth Amendment. Yet, for all that law, wealthy men in the South continued the practice of Black slavery. Of course, MY opinion (and I'm texan by family), was that what was needed was somethig very much like what Germany and Japan got in terms of occupation and "De-southifacation" Of course, at the time, such an idea would havd been most arrant fantasy. My ancestors were in Arkansas in those days and liberated the State of Kentucky (thier mother's State of birth), from Union opression. (2nd Arkansas) Then the 2nd Arkansas joined Briggs at Chatanooga, to fortify his position. Later, my ancestor represented the Administrator, in the enforcement of the Thirteenth Amendment, under the processes of Martial Law; as laid out by the Congress. All very nepotistic. |
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