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Old June 12th 07, 04:40 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Old June 12th 07, 04:51 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp like
that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?




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Dave Kearton


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Old June 12th 07, 10:48 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp
like that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?


Self correcting.

Lotsa nose up, ramp dudes walk home, trim adjusted.

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Old June 12th 07, 12:20 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Dave Kearton" wrote in message
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"Paul" wrote in message
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Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp like
that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?




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Cheers

Dave Kearton



Notice the rather BIG guy sitting in the middle.... Yeah they probably felt
it with him back there.... HA HA..
Just kidding. I took that photo last summer.

The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots feel
anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the Flight
Engineers /
Crew Chiefs walk around in the cabin frequently.

There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself can
hold 2000 lbs.

Paul


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Old June 12th 07, 01:11 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Dave Kearton
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"Paul" wrote in message
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| Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp
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| Cheers
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| Dave Kearton
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| Notice the rather BIG guy sitting in the middle.... Yeah they probably
felt
| it with him back there.... HA HA..
| Just kidding. I took that photo last summer.
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| The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots feel
| anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the Flight
| Engineers /
| Crew Chiefs walk around in the cabin frequently.
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| There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself can
| hold 2000 lbs.
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| Paul
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Once again, thanks Paul.



Just trying to be tactful - as a chubby guy myself ....



I suppose trim adjustment would have to be fairly automatic, if you're
going to offload pallets of stores or paratroops in flight (especially the
fat ones).




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Cheers

Dave Kearton



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Old June 12th 07, 07:11 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Paul, thanks for posting and thanks for serving.
I watched a PBS program last night that featured a Kansas Army Guard
CH-47 unit's deployment to Pakistan and Afganistan.
Impressive!
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Old June 12th 07, 07:13 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Dave Kearton" wrote in message
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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Paul" wrote in message
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| "Paul" wrote in message
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| Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp
like
| that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?
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| --
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| Cheers
|
| Dave Kearton
|
|
|
| Notice the rather BIG guy sitting in the middle.... Yeah they probably
felt
| it with him back there.... HA HA..
| Just kidding. I took that photo last summer.
|
| The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots
feel
| anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the
Flight
| Engineers /
| Crew Chiefs walk around in the cabin frequently.
|
| There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself
can
| hold 2000 lbs.
|
| Paul
|
|




Once again, thanks Paul.



Just trying to be tactful - as a chubby guy myself ....



I suppose trim adjustment would have to be fairly automatic, if you're
going to offload pallets of stores or paratroops in flight (especially the
fat ones).




--

Cheers

Dave Kearton




Here in the Dallas/Ft Worth area (southern Arlington), I grew up listening
to the "wump wump wump" as a gaggle of Chenooks would fly the southern route
from Dallas NAS to Carswell AFB. If I am not mistaken, the Chenook is
scheduled for retirement is it not? I still live in the same local and
still hear the occational "wump wump wump". I will miss that sound when the
time comes.

Chris


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Old June 13th 07, 12:39 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Paul[_3_]
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"Peavey_HP_Signature_Guy" wrote in message
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"Dave Kearton" wrote in message
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Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Paul" wrote in message
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| "Dave Kearton" wrote in message
| ...
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| "Paul" wrote in message
| ...
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| Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp
like
| that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?
|
|
|
|
| --
|
| Cheers
|
| Dave Kearton
|
|
|
| Notice the rather BIG guy sitting in the middle.... Yeah they probably
felt
| it with him back there.... HA HA..
| Just kidding. I took that photo last summer.
|
| The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots
feel
| anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the
Flight
| Engineers /
| Crew Chiefs walk around in the cabin frequently.
|
| There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself
can
| hold 2000 lbs.
|
| Paul
|
|




Once again, thanks Paul.



Just trying to be tactful - as a chubby guy myself ....



I suppose trim adjustment would have to be fairly automatic, if you're
going to offload pallets of stores or paratroops in flight (especially
the
fat ones).




--

Cheers

Dave Kearton




Here in the Dallas/Ft Worth area (southern Arlington), I grew up listening
to the "wump wump wump" as a gaggle of Chenooks would fly the southern
route from Dallas NAS to Carswell AFB. If I am not mistaken, the Chenook
is scheduled for retirement is it not? I still live in the same local and
still hear the occational "wump wump wump". I will miss that sound when
the time comes.

Chris


Sorry Retirement is not in the cards for this big workhourse.... you will be
hearing them for a long time yet...


The D model CH-47's NOW flying are being rebuilt into F models back at the
Boeing Plant in PA...
All Currently flying D models WILL be refurbished into either a CH-47F or
MH-47G models.
By 2013 all CH-47's in the Army will be F models. They are expected to fly
until 2030...


Paul


 




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