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To assume from ads that someting is legal is a bit easy and not always
right. The first one is a flight instructor and company who can offer those flights legally And on the second website it is not clear what they are and how legal that is. I would thing it looks not legal. They are nowhere telling you that they are instructors, having a flight company or that they are making it for nonprofit privat use. Ask them both. it will be the fastest way to get the info about "How-To-make money-out-of-my-hobby" Maik Oli Kai Paulus wrote: Juan Jimenez wrote: Not legal to carry pax for money on sightseeing trips in a trike in the US. Probably illegal in Germany as well. commercial sightseeing trips on trikes are legal in Germany and are offered at several airports, e.g. http://www.lukasbader.de/gutscheine_...ndemfluege.htm or www.strassham.de/rf_home.htm. I'm surprised to learn that it's illegal in the US. Excuse me??!?! Banner towing on a trike????? chuckle Well, it's technically feasible and and it's legal in Germany. Of course, the banner size is reduced compared to more powerful aircrafts. Regards, Oli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ABB - Vote Kerry. Please. www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oli Kai Paulus Bergstraße 18 Fon +49.30.28390731 D-10115 Berlin Fon +49.172.3914294 |
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Maik wrote:
The first one is a flight instructor and company who can offer those flights legally ok. And on the second website it is not clear what they are and how legal that is. I would thing it looks not legal. They are nowhere telling you that they are instructors, having a flight company or that they are making it for nonprofit privat use. hm. Ask them both. it will be the fastest way to get the info about "How-To-make money-out-of-my-hobby" I will. Thank you. Regards, Oli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ABB - Vote Kerry. Please. www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oli Kai Paulus Bergstraße 18 Fon +49.30.28390731 D-10115 Berlin Fon +49.172.3914294 |
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Oli Kai Paulus wrote in
: commercial sightseeing trips on trikes are legal in Germany and are offered at several airports, e.g. I guess German aviation regulatory common sense is not quite up to par with German engineering... shrug Well, it's technically feasible and and it's legal in Germany. Of course, the banner size is reduced compared to more powerful aircrafts. ....and if the banner is smaller, that means the aircraft has to fly lower, and therefore closer, to the people so they can read it. Hmm. Methinks there's yet another safety issue here. |
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Op Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:29:39 +0200 schreef Oli Kai Paulus
: Hi, I wonder if anyone out there is flying a trike professionally, i.e. makes a living from it - except for flight instructors, of course. I have shopped around a bit and basically found people offering - sightseeing trips Is interesting, when on a good location, and enough potential customers..........the weather in Europe (Germany) is a problem In some European countries you have to be an instructor to offer introduction flights with passengers..... - surveillance flights In Holland a police department was using an Ultra Light for surveillance flights. They sold the plane for some years and are using a VLA now. The slow speed of the Ultra Light, and open vieuw made it possible to make good quality pictures. Policeman with a licence! The army had some trikes (I know in Holland and the UK) the marines had an education in secret operations. It was proffesional but the project was stopped and the trikes were sold. - documentation (arial views of whatever) I had a demand from an institute that was monitoring the quality of wood in India and the illegal cut of trees in the bush. Mounting videocamara's on the trike was neccesary. Project is done in India. In Europe this kind of flights are aereal work and are not allowed according the rules in most euroean countries. - banner towing Illegal in Holland (althoug I tried several times heheheh ;-)) In France I know some are earning a living with bannertowing! There are some things left: Paradrop (illegal in Holland, Germany as well I think). Allowed in France, that's for sure! Spray crop: Illegal in Holland, Germany I do not know. France allowed. Earning a living in aviation? Only a few succeeded. Succes Oscar (Cosmos trike dealer , instructor, and not earning enough in business to survive!) |
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Osca® wrote:
Is interesting, when on a good location, and enough potential customers..........the weather in Europe (Germany) is a problem Well, my area (Berlin/Potsdam) surely has the potential, but there is some competition and the weather is not always favorable, yes. I think the key is marketing, as in every business. You will have to arrange cooperations with hotels, tour operators, fair and congress organizations, etc., you'llave to h have someone distributing leaflets in clubs, bars and at festivals, the whole works. I probably would not focus on individual passengers though, but rather on longer-term deals e.g. in banner towing for the marketing departments of large companies, they often have some money to throw around. But then, I'm really all new to this and may be entirely wrong India. In Europe this kind of flights are aereal work and are not allowed according the rules in most euroean countries. Hm, I'll have to check this. In France I know some are earning a living with bannertowing! Do you have a link? Earning a living in aviation? Only a few succeeded. Still maybe worth a try? Succes Thanks. Oscar (Cosmos trike dealer , instructor, and not earning enough in business to survive!) Hm. Due to your location maybe? What do you reckon your main disadvantage? My own instructor is a one-person company and seems to make his living from it, more or less. Regards, Oli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ABB - Vote Kerry. Please. www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oli Kai Paulus Bergstraße 18 Fon +49.30.28390731 D-10115 Berlin Fon +49.172.3914294 |
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Yes : " Bright Microlites" , Bright , Victoria , Australia 3741
"Oli Kai Paulus" wrote in message ... Hi, I wonder if anyone out there is flying a trike professionally, i.e. makes a living from it - except for flight instructors, of course. I have shopped around a bit and basically found people offering - sightseeing trips - surveillance flights - documentation (arial views of whatever) - banner towing and a few more exotic activities like herd monitoring etc. Virtually no-one offers transportation services, probably due to the weight and speed limitations of trikes and their dependance on good weather conditions. Most of what I found in Germany seems to be offered by either hobby pilots or flight schools as a mere add-on to their normal acitivites and does not seem to be their actual business. It may also be that the market in Germany is just not big enough, e.g. the web site of Germany's leading magazin for marketing and advertising does not even mention banner towing... Things may be different in the US, though. So, if anyone has or knows of a "business plan" for trike pilots I'd be glad to hear your ideas or follow your links. Regards, Oli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ABB - Vote Kerry. Please. www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oli Kai Paulus Bergstraße 18 Fon +49.30.28390731 D-10115 Berlin Fon +49.172.3914294 |
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ian .at.bendigo wrote:
Yes : " Bright Microlites" , Bright , Victoria , Australia 3741 thanks, they seem to offer sightseeing trips and work as instructors as well. Regards, Oli ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ABB - Vote Kerry. Please. www.johnkerry.com/onlinehq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Oli Kai Paulus Bergstraße 18 Fon +49.30.28390731 D-10115 Berlin Fon +49.172.3914294 |
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