U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

Leslie Swartz wrote:
There is indeed an obvious difference between "quoting a relevant excerpt"
and "reproducing the entire document."

its not the entire document. its a single story in a newspaper




Your point is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.


Dont think so

As a personal aside, what would drive a person to do this? I've never
understood that phenomenon- the use of an inappropriate counterargument in
refutation of a position- but I do agree it is effective, as many people are
too weak-minded or are inattentive to the discussion to notice. I, for one,
have never even considered the use of such misdirection to state a case. I
just fundamentally don't understand how anyone would consider using such a
ploy. Was it an accident?


Im a law professor. I teach this stuff.

im bothered by anyone who misuses the limited monopoly provided by the
copyright law

Vince


Steve Swartz


"Prof. Vincent Brannigan" wrote in message
...


Alan Lothian wrote:


In article , John
Mullen wrote:


Richard Bernstein, NYT
Reprinted in the International Herald Tribune.

U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

snip of loads of stuff distributed around the Net in gross breach of
copyright

On this point I have to disagree. It is clealry being distributed for the
purpose of comment and reaction, which is classic "Fair use" under the
copyright law.

BERNE CONVENTION FOR THE PROTECTION OF
LITERARY AND ARTISTIC WORKS (Paris Text 1971)

Article 10

(1) It shall be permissible to make quotations from a work which has

already

been lawfully made available to the public,
provided that their making is compatible with fair practice, and their

extent

does not exceed that justified by the purpose,
including quotations from newspaper articles and periodicals in the form

of

press summaries

Vince

Vince Brannigan wrote:

Im a law professor. I teach this stuff.

If you are, the students shold chip in and buy you a keyboard with an
apostrophe key.

im bothered by anyone who misuses the limited monopoly provided by the
copyright law

And the rest of us are bothered by someone claiming to be an expert on
something spouting obvious falsehoods...

--


Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda that you
have no real contact with the rest of the world, so how can you pretent to
bring peace and stability (with weapons!!!) throughout the world without
knowing it, and without wanting to know it.
It's not american people fault, it's all propaganda and biased information,
of the same kind germans invented at national socialism time and which is
still used at each crisis (please, I'm not saying US people are Nazis!).
It's the same kind of propaganda that was used by soviets and of course by
extreme islamists.
You should know, especially you in this "military" forum, that at war time,
misinformation and propaganda play a major role. So, do you really swallow
every word, all the bull****, that your puppet of president Bush says?!

The tv news we have in Europe are not the same as US ones, we have another
point of view of the world from where things don't look the same. So in
example it's better to put US and European news in the balance to get an
opinion that should me more correct. You should do the same in the US,
before things to get worse. This article isn't bull**** (at least you think
the others opinion always is bull****...) and you should have the
intelligence to pick some good points in it.

Not being single minded and keeping a critical spirit is a good thing,
whatever the situation is...

Yours, John

In article , John Doe
wrote:

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda


What's this "you" jazz, Doe boy? What makes you think I am American?
Must be my .sig, with a quote from a very great Muslim scholar and a
human-readable dot uk address, I suppose.

snippaggio

So, do you really swallow
every word, all the bull****, that your puppet of president Bush says?!

Not my puppet.

The tv news we have in Europe are not the same as US ones, we have another
point of view of the world from where things don't look the same.

Some of us in Europe can construct English sentences, too. Pas
seulement en anglais: est-ce que tu me conseilles de lire les avis du
Monde de Paris, par example, ou peut-etre The Guardian te suffit?


So in
example it's better to put US and European news in the balance

"Europe's in the balance; neither side prevails.
There's nothing left in either of the scales."
-- Alexander Pope.

--
"The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun

My .mac.com address is a spam sink.
If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign
countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda that you
have no real contact with the rest of the world, so how can you pretent to
bring peace and stability (with weapons!!!) throughout the world without
knowing it, and without wanting to know it.


Ahem the chap you are replying to isn't an American
I suggest that you actually READ the post before
engaging in any more wit and wisdom.

Keith

It's not american people fault, it's all propaganda and biased information,
of the same kind germans invented at national socialism time

Kill-file!

Probably should program the old kill-file to incorporate anyone who
styles himself "John Doe" with my intervention...


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

Diogenes Weeps.

Steve Swartz

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign
countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda that you
have no real contact with the rest of the world, so how can you pretent to
bring peace and stability (with weapons!!!) throughout the world without
knowing it, and without wanting to know it.
It's not american people fault, it's all propaganda and biased
information,
of the same kind germans invented at national socialism time and which is
still used at each crisis (please, I'm not saying US people are Nazis!).
It's the same kind of propaganda that was used by soviets and of course by
extreme islamists.
You should know, especially you in this "military" forum, that at war
time,
misinformation and propaganda play a major role. So, do you really swallow
every word, all the bull****, that your puppet of president Bush says?!

The tv news we have in Europe are not the same as US ones, we have another
point of view of the world from where things don't look the same. So in
example it's better to put US and European news in the balance to get an
opinion that should me more correct. You should do the same in the US,
before things to get worse. This article isn't bull**** (at least you
think
the others opinion always is bull****...) and you should have the
intelligence to pick some good points in it.

Not being single minded and keeping a critical spirit is a good thing,
whatever the situation is...

Yours, John

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.

I don't entirely agree with your closing idea, but thank you for the
fight that led you to it.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

In article , Cub Driver
wrote:

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.

I don't entirely agree with your closing idea

Think it through.

, but thank you for the
fight that led you to it.

My pleasure entirely. You're welcome.

--
"The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun

My .mac.com address is a spam sink.
If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:49:27 +0100, Alan Lothian
wrote:

In article , John
Mullen wrote:

Richard Bernstein, NYT
Reprinted in the International Herald Tribune.

U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

snip of loads of stuff distributed around the Net in gross breach of
copyright

The sympathy of the world (whatever the hell "world" means in that
context) plus two euros will buy you a cup of coffee in some capital
cities.


Add a couple more euros and you can get a nice cappucino.