About indentifiers....

Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include the
name of the airport, or the nearest town.

"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
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Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include
the name of the airport, or the nearest town.


....but if you *DO* get caught with an identifier in Canada or the USA that
you do not know, then your on-line encyclopaedia is he

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/LID/LIDHME.HTM

Or you can just use duats
"Icebound" wrote in message
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"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
news:X0gyd.6830$L7.6062@trnddc05...

Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include
the name of the airport, or the nearest town.


...but if you *DO* get caught with an identifier in Canada or the USA that
you do not know, then your on-line encyclopaedia is he

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/LID/LIDHME.HTM







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Or http://www.airnav.com/airports/
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

or just drop it into "google"

Karl
"curator" N185KG


"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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Or http://www.airnav.com/airports/
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

The reason I always use the airport identifier is it's a lot
easier than spelling it all out. ; )

Like the other guys said, you can use Airnav or such to look
them up. Only takes a minute.


"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
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Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include
the name of the airport, or the nearest town.

In a previous article, "Casey Wilson" said:
Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include the
name of the airport, or the nearest town.

I presume you're talking about posts with subject lines like "Good FBO for
BAF" or "Why does ILS23 at QQQ have a bend in the middle?"

Most of these questions are aimed at people who regularly use the airport.
If you don't know the identifier off by heart, then chances are you don't
fly there often enough to answer the questions about it.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
FAQs are like flatulence. Any asshole can produce them.
-- Toni L

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:09:58 GMT, "Peter MacPherson"
wrote:

The reason I always use the airport identifier is it's a lot
easier than spelling it all out. ; )

Like the other guys said, you can use Airnav or such to look
them up. Only takes a minute.


"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
news:X0gyd.6830$L7.6062@trnddc05...

Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include
the name of the airport, or the nearest town.


When you add a minute of everyone's time who's reading it, and compare
it to the few seconds it'll take to write it out, what seems to make
more sense? Which is more readable to the masses? Why should someone
need reference material handy at all times to read a message on a
newsboard? That's like needing to bring reference books with you
whenever you plan on reading a newspaper.

z

Paul summed it up pretty well for me here....

I presume you're talking about posts with subject lines like "Good FBO for
BAF" or "Why does ILS23 at QQQ have a bend in the middle?"

Most of these questions are aimed at people who regularly use the airport.
If you don't know the identifier off by heart, then chances are you don't
fly there often enough to answer the questions about it.



"zatatime" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:09:58 GMT, "Peter MacPherson"
wrote:

The reason I always use the airport identifier is it's a lot
easier than spelling it all out. ; )

Like the other guys said, you can use Airnav or such to look
them up. Only takes a minute.


"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
news:X0gyd.6830$L7.6062@trnddc05...

Please, folks. Some, I'd wager most, of us just don't have
encyclopedic memory. When you use an airport identifier, please include
the name of the airport, or the nearest town.


When you add a minute of everyone's time who's reading it, and compare
it to the few seconds it'll take to write it out, what seems to make
more sense? Which is more readable to the masses? Why should someone
need reference material handy at all times to read a message on a
newsboard? That's like needing to bring reference books with you
whenever you plan on reading a newspaper.

z

"Peter MacPherson" wrote in message
news:6imyd.226425$5K2.106543@attbi_s03...
Paul summed it up pretty well for me here....

I presume you're talking about posts with subject lines like "Good FBO for
BAF" or "Why does ILS23 at QQQ have a bend in the middle?"

Most of these questions are aimed at people who regularly use the airport.
If you don't know the identifier off by heart, then chances are you don't
fly there often enough to answer the questions about it.

However, if you're unfamiliar with the airport, you may still find the
ANSWER useful. But you'll never know, because the elite "I know the ID and
it shouldn't matter to you" folks refuse to spell things out.

Just because you don't know the answer to the question, that doesn't mean
the question isn't interesting to you. If we expected only those who knew
the answer to a question to involve themselves with the post at all, then we
could save a LOT of bandwidth by simply having those who know the answer
email it directly back to the original poster. Why post back to the
newsgroup at all?

Bottom line: there ARE people reading these threads who do NOT know the
answer, nor are they necessarily familiar with the airport(s) in question,
and yet who DO have an interest in what's being discussed. It's an
incredibly minor imposition on the person using the abbreviation (be it an
airport ID or whatever) to define the abbreviation, especially for those
that are not part of the basic jargon on the newsgroup (I'll concede on
things like FBO, ATC, IFR, etc.), and it's incredibly wasteful to make
thousands, or possibly even tens of thousands of people look up the
identifier individually.

This is basic Usenet etiquette. It's a common enough request, and for most
people who have any basic sense of having a *usable* Usenet community, it's
regarded as "the right thing to do".

Just spell it out. It's not that hard, and it permits *everyone* to be
involved, not just those who know the secret handshake.

Pete