Occasional Instruction in own airplane

"Dana M. Hague" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:04:14 -0800, "BT" wrote:

An airport authority cannot limit access to the airport for "private"
instructors running their own operations and not being associated with a
"recognized" flight school.

To do so they would jeopardize their Federal Funding.

Only if the airport receives Federal funding. The vast majority of
small airports (nearly all privately owned airports, and even many
municipally owned ones) receive no funding, so they can do what they
want.

This is correct and I would add that smaller airports that do receive public
funding quite often receive it from state aviation authorities which have
their own rules on such matters.

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"BT" wrote in message
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An airport authority cannot limit access to the airport for "private"
instructors running their own operations and not being associated with a
"recognized" flight school.

To do so they would jeopardize their Federal Funding.

This has come up before, and although you are correct about them not being
able to stop you from teaching at a publicly funded airport, they can
require you to do other things, such as establish an office at the
airport, and to rent the office, and possibly hangar space from the
airport authority.

There's a difference between a publicly funded airport and a federally
funded airport. The feds have their own rules as do the states.

As far as the fed rules go, they can stop you from teaching also. All they
have to do is cite safety concerns or some other exclusion found in the
airport sponsor assurance agreement with the feds. Airport managers have a
pretty wide latitude on what types of activities they can allow or exclude,
or even limit. They are supposed to be reasonable, but many aren't, and
unless it's particularly egregious, the FAA probably isn't going to
intervene.

BT wrote:
An airport authority cannot limit access to the airport for "private"
instructors running their own operations and not being associated with a
"recognized" flight school.

Actually, my local municipal airport has done so for years.

Maybe they don't take federal funding?

"B A R R Y" wrote

Actually, my local municipal airport has done so for years.

Maybe they don't take federal funding?

I'll bet if the airport director (or whatever they call that position) got a
letter or a call from an AOPA lawyer, they would change their tune.

Of course, they could always use the other tactics I mentioned, like
requiring an on airport office, perhaps even staffed full time, or something
like that.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote
Actually, my local municipal airport has done so for years.

Maybe they don't take federal funding?

I'll bet if the airport director (or whatever they call that position) got a
letter or a call from an AOPA lawyer, they would change their tune.


It's been challenged several times... It stands.

On Dec 7, 10:18*am, Denny wrote:
On Dec 5, 4:39*pm, wrote:

Hello,

I'm a CFI, and am considering buying aCherokee, mostly for personal
use. I would like to be able to offeroccasionalflightinstructionin
that plane (less than 50 hours per year). This would consist mostly of
BFRs and intro flights. I recall seeing that insurance for such
occasionalinstructionwas offered somewhere, but I can't seem to find
it. I don't want to pay an extra $2000 * for such coverage tho. Is
anyone else doing this, and if so where did you obtain the appropriate
insurance coverage?

Thanks,

Chris

Chris,
Check the regs... Flying for hire is what your CFI covers... Offering
YOUR aircraft out to the public is a different ballgame - airtaxi...
Remember Bob Hoover and CYA...

cheers *... *denny

Uh...no. Offering an aircraft for *instruction* for hire is NOT air
taxi. Or do you think that all those Part 61 flight schools out there
have Part 135 certificates somewhere?

Denny wrote in

:

Check the regs... Flying for hire is what your CFI covers...
Offering YOUR aircraft out to the public is a different ballgame -
airtaxi... Remember Bob Hoover and CYA...

Wrong on both counts.

--

On Dec 10, 9:35*am, wrote:
On Dec 7, 10:18*am, Denny wrote:



On Dec 5, 4:39*pm, wrote:

Hello,

I'm a CFI, and am considering buying aCherokee, mostly for personal
use. I would like to be able to offeroccasionalflightinstructionin
that plane (less than 50 hours per year). This would consist mostly of
BFRs and intro flights. I recall seeing that insurance for such
occasionalinstructionwas offered somewhere, but I can't seem to find
it. I don't want to pay an extra $2000 * for such coverage tho. Is
anyone else doing this, and if so where did you obtain the appropriate
insurance coverage?

Thanks,

Chris

Chris,
Check the regs... Flying for hire is what your CFI covers... Offering
YOUR aircraft out to the public is a different ballgame - airtaxi...
Remember Bob Hoover and CYA...

cheers *... *denny

Uh...no. Offering an aircraft for *instruction* for hire is NOT air
taxi. Or do you think that all those Part 61 flight schools out there
have Part 135 certificates somewhere?

Not sure about the USA, but in Canada such activity must
take place in a commercially-registered airplane, not a privately-
registered one. Maintenance requirements for commercial differ
somewhat as well. Something to consider.

Dan

"B A R R Y" wrote

It's been challenged several times... It stands.

What, exactly, has been challenged, and by whom?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote
It's been challenged several times... It stands.

What, exactly, has been challenged, and by whom?


Folks that wanted to use the place to meet students and instruct, using
it as a base, and a guy doing repairs out of the hangar he rented.
There's even a huge, "NO PRIVATE ENTERPRISES" sign installed by the city.

You can, of course, fly into the field, land, teach, etc... then fly
away.