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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Jefferson godless? He wasn't, of course. And I should have said "many Republicans," since the influence of Bible-inerrancy believing fundamentalists has not entirely pervaded the party. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message ... Then why the fight against gay marriage? What fight against gay marriage? You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you might have with this statement. Why the fight against abortion? Because all current abortion methods kill a child. When an abortion procedure is developed that does not kill the child the fight against abortion will end. Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting to prevent abortions, with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall under the general category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about them through something called "sex education". While I am firmly pro-choice, I am willing to admit that the anti-abortion side (which is not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point. Most anti-abortionists I've encountered, though, have absolutely no interest in preventing the procedure. What they want to do is _stop_ it, because prevention is much harder and involves other things that the anti-abortionists are uncomfortable with - things like making sure that teenagers know the "facts of life", or that all women have affordable access to birth control and health care. If you've waited until little Debbie is pregnant, you've lost your chance to prevent an abortion, period. All you can do now is stop it, but don't call it prevention. Rich Lemert |
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"darwin smith" wrote in message link.net... You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you might have with this statement. It wasn't a statement, it was a question, and one that apparently stumped you. Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting to prevent abortions, with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall under the general category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about them through something called "sex education". Those are not abortion procedures. While I am firmly pro-choice, You are firmly pro-murder, for that is what abortion is at present. I am willing to admit that the anti-abortion side (which is not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point. Anti-abortion IS pro-life. |
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in article . net, Steven P.
McNicoll at wrote on 4/17/04 1:10 PM: "Philip Sondericker" wrote in message ... Errr, then explain again how we're financing the current war? Do you think redistributing other peoples assets is financing the war? No, I think that redistributing my assets is financing the war. |
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message ... No, I think that redistributing my assets is financing the war. What caused you to think that? |
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"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message ... Whose money are we using--the Belgian's? Did you not understand the question? |
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"Ray Andraka" wrote in message ... I get better gas mileage in my '65 Cherokee Six than a Hummer gets on the highway, 153 MPH at 14 GPH = 10.9 miles per gallon (statute miles). Gee, that's something to boast about, a vehicle that gets better gas mileage than a Hummer. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"darwin smith" wrote in message hlink.net... You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you might have with this statement. It wasn't a statement, it was a question, and one that apparently stumped you. It was a question asked in such a way as to imply that the "answer" was completely obvious - there is no fight against gay marraige. I therefore treated the comment as a statement being expressed in the form of a rhetorical question. Now, I would guess that to you the answer to your "question" is perfectly obvious - there is no fight against gay marriage. If this is so, then could you please explain to me why the Republican efforts in Massachussetts to ban same-sex unions, and "Bush the Lesser's" proposed constitutional amendment are not "fights against gay marriage"/ Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting to prevent abortions, with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall under the general category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about them through something called "sex education". Those are not abortion procedures. While I am firmly pro-choice, You are firmly pro-murder, for that is what abortion is at present. I disagree, obviously, but as I say below I can understand your view. I am willing to admit that the anti-abortion side (which is not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point. Anti-abortion IS pro-life. Even when there is no exception to save the life of the mother? By the way, I see that you didn't bother to address my comments about birth control, sex education, and generally being around when Suzy really needs the help. Let me know when you're ready and willing to discuss the _complete_ topic of abortion, and have moved beyond just casting judgement on those who happen to disagree with you. Rich Lemert |
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