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In message , BUFDRVR
writes Second, I've never taken, nor been told to, "anti-nerve" agents. The only time you take these is when you've been exposed to a nerve agent. There are also Nerve Agent Pre-treatment System (NAPS) tablets which are taken in anticipation of exposure to cholinesterase inhibitors (nerve gases, organophosphorous insecticides and so on) - these increase your resistance to the compounds and buy you more time to mask up, seal up and grab a Combopen. I don't believe they're issued to aircrew, though, which would be why you haven't come across them. -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. W S Churchill Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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"John R Weiss" wrote in message news:Ji9%a.121293$Oz4.25309@rwcrnsc54... "John Hairell" wrote... He is delusional - this has been argued ad-nauseam this year, last year, and the prior year, and Tarver always argues from the same position, namely that the military is not at all subject to FAA jurisdiction. This seems to be an issue of "constitutionality" with him, i.e. his position has previously been that DOD is part of the executive department and is not subject to any regulatory agencies. And he is wrong. Indeed, those of us who have been here for a while know that Tarver posts a lot of incredible BS around here. However, lest the occasional newcomer start to accept any of it as truth, it is worth debunking again. Just admit you are wrong about FAA having Authority over the military, Weiss. FAA control of airspace through ATC is at the discression of the military. As to my understanding of electric aircraft systems being a minor area, I recommend you spend some time educating yourself as to how modern aircraft work. John p. Tarver, MS/PE |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
... FAA provides military operations areas wherever the military requests them. http://www1.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIR/air2501.html#25-1-6 Not quite... The FAA MAY provide a military operations area when the military requests one. The FAA has the final decision authority (14 CFR 11.69). Additionally here is the FAA Order for special military operations, as published in the Congressional Record. http://www1.faa.gov/ATPubs/MIL/INDEX.HTM Indeed, the military may REQUEST exercise areas and Special Use Airspace from the FAA for special military operations. However, as provided in par. 2-1-4.a. of Order 7610.4J, Order 7400.2 governs the procedures. Par. 21-1-5 of Order 7400.2E is very clear: "FAA Headquarters is the final approval authority for all permanent and temporary SUA, except CFA's. CFA approval authority is delegated to the regional ATD." Again, the FAA has the final authority to approve or deny requests. For safety and cost reasons FAA ATC has control of airspace for both civilian and military operations, but ATC has no authority to sanction either a pilot, or the military. ATC, as demonstrated in the two ATC Orders (law) posted here, is in compliance with the Military's needs and not the other way around. In the case of "Special Operations", ATC may have an obligation to ground all civil aircraft, as was demonstrated in 2001. The FAA certainly has the obligation to consider military needs, but it is not required to approve all military requests. Note that the FAA is the one that grounded all civil aircraft in 2001 -- not some other agency. Certainly other agencies had significant input into the FAA's decision, but "the Administrator" made the final decision. Neither of the orders you cite has anything to do with FAA sanctions of pilots or "the military." |
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"John R Weiss" wrote in message . net... "Tarver Engineering" wrote... FAA control of airspace through ATC is at the discression of the military. Not according to all the statutes, regulations, and orders cited so far... What would you have FAA do if the Military chose to take flight? |
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