More on Bush in the Air Guard

More on Bush in the Air Guard

http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

SUMMARY

An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory
Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures
of that era lead to a single conclusion: George W. Bush was considered a
deserter by the United States Air Force.


After Bush quit TXANG, he still had nine months of his six-year military
commitment left to serve. As a result, Bush became a member of the Air Force
Reserves and was transferred to the authority of the Air Reserve Personnel
Center (ARPC) in Denver, Colorado. Because this was supposed to be a
temporary assignment, ARPC had to review Bush’s records to determine where he
should ultimately be assigned. That examination would have led to three
conclusions: That Bush had “failed to satisfactorily participate� as
defined by United States law and Air Force policy, that TXANG could not account
for Bush’s actions for an entire year, and that Bush’s medical records were
not up to date. Regardless of what actions ARPC contemplated when reviewing
Bush’s records, all options required that Bush be certified as physically fit
to serve, or as unfit to serve. ARPC thus had to order Bush to get a physical
examination, for which Bush did not show up. ARPC then designated Bush as AWOL
and a “non-locatee� (i.e. a deserter) who had failed to satisfactorily
participate in TXANG, and certified him for immediate induction through his
local draft board. Once the Houston draft board got wind of the situation,
strings were pulled; and documents were generated which directly contradict Air
Force policy, and which were inconsistent with the rest of the records released
by the White House.

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Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Let me tell you why I believe this it total bull**** that some very
enterprising con men dreamed up in order to sell lies for personal
enrichment. I can sum it up in one rhetorical question. But first, a little
preamble. If a person is a deserter, there is no statute of limitations on
that crime.

So, the question is, if Bush was a deserter, why has he not been charged,
arrested and tried? Or, better yet, if you believe all this crap, why don't
you file charges on him and have him removed from office? I think they know
his location.

In reality, you guys are a joke. But, at least you have each other.


--
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environment, support a family farmer.

Brooks Gregory

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:19:18 GMT, "Brooks Gregory"
wrote:

Or, better yet, if you believe all this crap, why don't
you file charges on him and have him removed from office? I think they know
his location.

Funnily enough, the FAA doesn't seem to! (His file shows that his
address is unknown.)

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Or, better yet, if you believe all this crap, why don't
you file charges on him and have him removed from office? I think they know
his location.

Because the phrase "equal justice under law" has been a joke in Texas for a
long time --at least as far as the Bushes go -- and increasingly, for all of
us.

If there were no other reason to get rid of Bush there is one overwhelmingly
compelling reason.

He has detained an American citizen, arrested in the United States, for over
two years in direct defiance of the civil liberty provisions of the Bill of
Rights.

If this person were most the vile terrorist ever (and the government seems to
have no case -- that's why they don't bring charges), give the guy a trial and
sentence him to death. The Bush administration hasn't done that.

I saw suggested on another forum that this recent proposal to postpone or
cancel the 11/2/04 election was a trial balloon to see how people and the media
handled it. Now the Bushies are backing off this proposal because the
response was pretty strong.

I think the arrest and detention of Jose Padilla was a trial balloon too. It
really (the lengthy detention) serves no other purpose. But most people are
going, at least by their actions, "la-dee-da, who cares about the Bill of
Rights." In this they are complacently ignorant. A real disgrace in this
country is that Bush could even have competetive poll numbers. It's like the
blood and suffering of the Revolution means nothing, that the struggle to move
human rights forward -- it's like none of that happened.

Read your Declaration of Independence:

"He has combined....for depriving us in many cases of the benefits of trial by
Jury:"

If there is only ONE case of deprivation of a jury trial where the courts can
operate, that is way too many.

Bush has done that.

His aiders and abettors, the United States Supreme Court, disallowed the Habeas
Corpus petetiton Padilla's lawyer filled because he filed it in New York, not
where Padilla is now being held, in South Carolina.

You Republican party kool-aid drinkers need to wake up and realize that Bush is
the worst president ever. The United States of America is under attack -- by
the Bush Administration.

This thing about Bush's guard service, the economy, even the general conduct of
the war, overrun as it is by dereliction of duty (both General Anthony Zinni
and David Hackworth have used that word) by the Bush people really are not as
important as the trial balloon of suspension of the Bill of Rights that people
don't give a flip about.

As an aside, even as the occupaton of Iraq has been a disastrous failure,
causing the death of many more US service people than it should have, note that
after almost 3 years, the Bush Justice Department has secured not ONE
conviction in the War on Terror -- even against Mousaoui (sp) who was caught
taking simulator lessons for jumbo jets.

Bush is a miserable failure no matter how deeply you plough your head into the
sand.


Walt

Bush is a miserable failure no matter how deeply you plough your head into
the
sand.


Walt

Walt, I have to have to be the one to tell you but your rants here are doing
nothing to convince anyone to change their politcal affiliations. All they are
doing is to convince Bush supporters and the undecided that many of Kerry's
supporters are Bush hating drones and that there is no real political agenda
for them other than to get revenge for the perception that Bush stole the
election. why don't you let it go or take it elsewhere to a more receptive
audience. Emaimls here are running 10:1 against you and that ratio is not
increasing mainly because everyone is putting you in their kill file, including
me after I hit send..

"Steve Mellenthin" wrote in message
...
Bush is a miserable failure no matter how deeply you plough your head
into
the
sand.


Walt

Walt, I have to have to be the one to tell you but your rants here are
doing
nothing to convince anyone to change their politcal affiliations. All
they are
doing is to convince Bush supporters and the undecided that many of
Kerry's
supporters are Bush hating drones and that there is no real political
agenda
for them other than to get revenge for the perception that Bush stole the
election. why don't you let it go or take it elsewhere to a more
receptive
audience. Emaimls here are running 10:1 against you and that ratio is not
increasing mainly because everyone is putting you in their kill file,
including
me after I hit send..

BINGO!


--
If you really want to save the
environment, support a family farmer.

Brooks Gregory

"Steve Mellenthin" wrote in message
...
Bush is a miserable failure no matter how deeply you plough your head
into
the
sand.


Walt

Walt, I have to have to be the one to tell you but your rants here are
doing
nothing to convince anyone to change their politcal affiliations. All
they are
doing is to convince Bush supporters and the undecided that many of
Kerry's
supporters are Bush hating drones and that there is no real political
agenda
for them other than to get revenge for the perception that Bush stole the
election. why don't you let it go or take it elsewhere to a more
receptive
audience. Emaimls here are running 10:1 against you and that ratio is not
increasing mainly because everyone is putting you in their kill file,
including
me after I hit send..

Actually I think the wacky postings are great because they demonstrate the
poor reasoning and disregard for the facts so common among the followers of
the left. Keep them coming I say so more the swing voters out there can see
just what these people are all about!

Jarg

ojunk (Steve Mellenthin) wrote in message ...

Emaimls here are running 10:1 against you and that ratio is not
increasing mainly because everyone is putting you in their kill file, including
me after I hit send..

Do you seriously expect us to beleive that people are emailing YOU to
tell you what they think of Walt?

--

FF

(WalterM140) wrote in message ...


His aiders and abettors, the United States Supreme Court, disallowed the Habeas
Corpus petetiton Padilla's lawyer filled because he filed it in New York, not
where Padilla is now being held, in South Carolina.

IMHO, that was incorrect inasmuch as he had been moved form New York
to South Carolina and is held there by the same sovreign, and is being
held one presumes, for the same reasons and on the same evidence,
though absent a hearing one doesn't know what justification, if
any, the Feds have for holding him. While I do not believe he was
moved to do an end-run around a habeas petition this ruling opens
the door on that tactic.

By ruling on the jurisdictional issue the USSC avoided ruling one way or
the other on the substantive one.

HOWEVER, another case heard by the court did address the exact same
substantive issue raised in Padilla and that ruling upheld habeas,
thus mooting the substantive issue in Padilla.

So, your characterisation was, to say the least, inaccurate.

The USSC handed America a great victory that day.

--

FF

HOWEVER, another case heard by the court did address the exact same
substantive issue raised in Padilla and that ruling upheld habeas,
thus mooting the substantive issue in Padilla.

So, your characterisation was, to say the least, inaccurate.

The USSC handed America a great victory that day.

--

Not when a citizen --any citizen-- is denied due process.

Padilla is the benchmark case because he is an American citizen arrested in
America at a time when the courts could operate freely.

Hamdi (the other case) was arrested in Afghanistan.

This issue alone is enough to toss Bush and his sorry crew.


Walt