ID WWII airfield wreckage?

In article ,
"Bob's Your Uncle" writes:

Funny I thought the aircraft that filled that role was the Ju-52

Keith

In Africa, the Gotha Go242 and 244 did that job!

Erm... The Go 242 was a glider. Not much use without a powered
airplane to tow it. The airplane the Germans used was (Wait for it!)
The Ju 52.
The Go 244 was an attempt to build a powered Go 242. It wasn't
successful, being woefully underpowered. Two line units briefly
converted to the Go 244 from Ju 52s in early 1942. Within 6 months,
one (K.Gr.z.b.V 104) had converted to Me 323s, and the other,
(K.Gr.z.b.V. 106) had converted back to Ju 52s. The surviving Ar 244s
were used for a short time at the Parachute Training Schools.

Both the Go 242 and Go 244 were made of smooth plywood, and had
twin tails mounted on booms, rather than the substantial currugated
metal fuselages with large fins (& occasionally rudders) shown in the
photograph,

The squared-off currugated ones are Ju 52s. The more rounded one on
the left is a Ju 88.

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Pete Stickney
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bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

"Bob's Your Uncle" wrote in message
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Funny I thought the aircraft that filled that role was the Ju-52

Keith

In Africa, the Gotha Go242 and 244 did that job!



No sir the Go-242 was an assault glider, the 244 was fitted
with 2 engines but was slow and exceptionally vulnerable.
Only 176 were in fact built

The mainstay of the air supply for the DAK was the JU-52
supplemented by the Me-323

Keith

On 18 Apr 2004 12:21:51 GMT, (JDupre5762) wrote:

Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.

I think you mean Ju 52 or to be even more accurate Ju 52-3m. For Junkers model
52 trimotor since the first Ju 52s were single engine. I wonder if there was
ever a Ju 52 2m?

No, they just added two engines on the wings to turn the original single-engined
Ju 52 into the 3m. AFAIK, there neber was a two-engined Ju 52.

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:23:37 GMT, Ryan wrote:

While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.

-Ryan

I believe that they are probably JU-52/3m. The corrugated skin
and the vertical fins are clues.

Al Minyard

"Guy Alcala" wrote in message
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John Keeney wrote:

"Ryan" wrote in message
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While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

The biggest part of them appear to be JU 58's:

??

There are at least eight tail sections visible, part of
that total -in fact the biggest part, six- are very likely
to be Ju 58's and one other is likely a Ju 58.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"John Keeney" wrote in message
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Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.


Funny I thought the aircraft that filled that role was the Ju-52

Crap.
All right, replace every time I've type Ju 58 over the last couple
of days with Ju 52.
Heck, I said right up front that WWII German planes weren't
my strong suit.

I wonder where I got Ju 58? I googled up "German trimotor"
before I posted...

"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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The squared-off currugated ones are Ju 52s. The more rounded one on
the left is a Ju 88.

Now this is interesting: I'm finding pictures on the web of Ju 88s
with different tail designs.
At http://www.ju88.net they are rebuilding one and
http://www.ju88.net/comparisonbilder/tailplanedraw.jpg
clearly shows the vertical separation between the
vertical stabilizer & rudder. While
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/ge...8/Ju_88_nf.htm
has this picture
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/ge.../junkers-2.jpg
about a third of the way down showing the style of rudder you see in
the picture that started this thread.

Now this is interesting: I'm finding pictures on the web of Ju 88s
with different tail designs.

As with most aircraft in service for over six years, there was quite a bit of
fiddling with the design. The standard design, the Ju 88 A-4 bomber, was quite
a bit different than the Ju 88 S and the various Gs (nightfighters).

v/r
Gordon