747 is the greatest aircraft of all time, morons

Does it really take a travel agent to inform you guys that the 747
will be the aircraft long remembered in aviation history?

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

The 747 has established air routes that link the entire world and
moved cargo at a pace that transformed not only the delivery business
but the nations that rely on those resources to advance their own
industries.

Who cares about some old rusting hunk of military hardware? Even the
sleek SR-71 is nothing compared to the Jumbo.

You guys need to get your heads out of your ass**, um... the clouds...
and think about the revolution the 747 has caused and the
accessability of flight to the average Joe.

Even when that monster Airbus slugs its way into the air it will be a
long time before that aerial doubledecker ever truly rivals the Jumbo.

The 747 will never be forgotten while Concorde fades away like the
Russian SST.

JS

I think that is more an opinion than anything else. I certainly agree with
you that the 747 did revolutionize aviation, but you could make that
statement for many aircraft. There are tons of aircraft that are just as
important to flight as the 747. The Wright Flyer, the DC3, Me262, Concorde,
and the list could just keep on going.
-Jonathan
"Jason Strong" wrote in message
om...
Does it really take a travel agent to inform you guys that the 747
will be the aircraft long remembered in aviation history?

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

The 747 has established air routes that link the entire world and
moved cargo at a pace that transformed not only the delivery business
but the nations that rely on those resources to advance their own
industries.

Who cares about some old rusting hunk of military hardware? Even the
sleek SR-71 is nothing compared to the Jumbo.

You guys need to get your heads out of your ass**, um... the clouds...
and think about the revolution the 747 has caused and the
accessability of flight to the average Joe.

Even when that monster Airbus slugs its way into the air it will be a
long time before that aerial doubledecker ever truly rivals the Jumbo.

The 747 will never be forgotten while Concorde fades away like the
Russian SST.

JS

In article ,
(Jason Strong) writes:
Does it really take a travel agent to inform you guys that the 747
will be the aircraft long remembered in aviation history?

No, but for some reason, the theme from Expedia.com is running through
my head, just now.

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

I really have to disagree. The revolution in air travel came 10 years
earlier, with the introduction of the Boeing 707 and the DC-8. They
were teh aircraft that changed air travel, bringing about a whole new
universe of operating economics and making transoceanic travel
something other than a luxury. The 747 expanded that somewhat, but it
was operating in a universe that had already changed. The 747 was an
evomutionary step, not a revolutionary one.

It was the 707 that killed off the Ocean Liners. They were all gone
by the time the 747 showed up.

The 747 has established air routes that link the entire world and
moved cargo at a pace that transformed not only the delivery business
but the nations that rely on those resources to advance their own
industries.

Uhm, what routes, exactly? The 747s aren't going anywhere that the
707s weren't already going.

Who cares about some old rusting hunk of military hardware? Even the
sleek SR-71 is nothing compared to the Jumbo.

You guys need to get your heads out of your ass**, um... the clouds...
and think about the revolution the 747 has caused and the
accessability of flight to the average Joe.

This paragraph makes me quite proud that I helped develop the
Distributed Network Control System that allowed the Sabre Reservation
Network to be restrung for open access, thus allowing the average Joe
to find and book flights over their own computers, reducing the
requirement for Travel Agents.

Even when that monster Airbus slugs its way into the air it will be a
long time before that aerial doubledecker ever truly rivals the Jumbo.

Y'know, I still haven't seen how the A380 is supposed to pass the
evacuation requiremnts for certification. The upper deck's too far
off the ground for slides to work reliably enough.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Yes, the 747 will be remembered. However, I think its place in history is
more evolutionary than revolutionary. The 707 more closely meets the
criteria that you presented. Its entry into service was truly
revolutionary.

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

When the 747 entered service, prices did not drop. In many cases, fares
increased, as passengers were willing to pay a premium for non-stop service.
It took awhile before passengers benefitted from reduced operating costs.
Likewise, load factors limited the routes on which the 747 could be
operated.

Although you don't address it, the "average Joe" has never been an
international traveller. For the "average Joe", affordable domestic and
continental air service was revolutionary. For the "average Joe", the 727
and 737 were probably more revolutionary.

The 747 has established air routes that link the entire world and
moved cargo at a pace that transformed not only the delivery business
but the nations that rely on those resources to advance their own
industries.

Having worked extensivley in air cargo operations, we are in some agreement
here, but maybe not for reasons that you intended. If you were thinking
about 747 freighters, I would argue that the tremendous cargo capacity of
passenger 747's has played a bigger role in cargo transport, over the life
of the 747. The economics of operating a 747 freighter has always been a
bit problematic.

You guys need to get your heads out of your ass**, um... the clouds...
and think about the revolution the 747 has caused and the
accessability of flight to the average Joe.

It sounds like you need to pull your head out of your ass and learn more
about civil aviation

"John Cook" wrote in message
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The Comet lead the way, the metal fatigue issue lead to changes in the
following designs on both sides of the atlantic.


I'll put that in the category of, "what might have been."

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:13:33 GMT, "damron"
wrote:



The Comet lead the way, the metal fatigue issue lead to changes in the
following designs on both sides of the atlantic.

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On 29 Nov 2003 18:01:22 -0800, (Jason Strong)
wrote:

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

Go a couple of years ahead and take a look at the Junkers 52...
Bye
Andreas

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:28:53 +0100, Andreas Maurer wrote:

On 29 Nov 2003 18:01:22 -0800, (Jason Strong)
wrote:

The 747 revolutionized air travel and has moved billions of people
around the earth, making flight obtainable to everyone for a
reasonable price without the need to become a pilot or join the AF.

Go a couple of years ahead and take a look at the Junkers 52...
Bye
Andreas

The JU-52 was a contemporary of the DC-3, which was clearly a far more
advanced and noteworthy aircraft.

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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The JU-52 was a contemporary of the DC-3, which was clearly a far more
advanced and noteworthy aircraft.


Contemporary? The Ju-52 first flew in October 1930, more than five years
before the DC-3. That's a fairly long time in a period where aviation
technology was advancing rather rapidly.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net...
"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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The JU-52 was a contemporary of the DC-3, which was clearly a far more
advanced and noteworthy aircraft.


Contemporary? The Ju-52 first flew in October 1930, more than five years
before the DC-3. That's a fairly long time in a period where aviation
technology was advancing rather rapidly.

Yeah, but the DC-3's *very* close direct ancestor, the DC-2, flew in
1933, and was quite a bit advanced over the Ju-52 (more than one would
probably expect from a three year period in the early 1930's). I don't
think 1930 versus 1933 is that much of a difference, do you?

Brooks