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FAA releases final list of NDB approaches considered for cancellation
FAA needs to hear from pilots before April 4
The FAA has finalized the list of NDB approaches it is considering
canceling. Now it's up to pilots to let the agency know if any of these
approaches are still needed.

"The FAA is looking to cancel underused, redundant approach procedures,
not decommission NDBs," said Melissa Rudinger, AOPA vice president of
regulatory policy. "In almost all cases, the runway end is also served
by another ground-based navaid (VOR, LOC, or ILS) and a GPS approach."
(See "FAA to eliminate redundant instrument approaches.")

The revised list now includes 479 approaches under consideration for
cancellation. More on NDB approaches...


Call me perverse..I like NDB approaches. On the other hand, I understand
their days are numbered. My only concern is that there are plenty of planes
without approach certified IFR GPS that will be left without a backup if the
localizer goes kaput.

Also, it will be more difficult to teach NDB approaches if they're no longer
on the books.

Brad Zeigler wrote:

Also, it will be more difficult to teach NDB approaches if they're no longer
on the books.

Kind of like A-N range approaches

Call me perverse..I like NDB approaches. On the other hand, I understand
their days are numbered. My only concern is that there are plenty of
planes without approach certified IFR GPS that will be left without a
backup if the localizer goes kaput.

Also, it will be more difficult to teach NDB approaches if they're no
longer on the books.

Well.. if the localizer goes kaput... then it is the VOR backup.. but if
it's my receiver that has gone kaput.. then its over to the military base
for a radar directed approach...

we have no NDB outer marker on any ILS in the valley.. for well over 100
miles in the area.. maybe 150 miles..

BT

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:LL9Xd.70090$Tt.44632@fed1read05...
Well.. if the localizer goes kaput... then it is the VOR backup.. but if
it's my receiver that has gone kaput.. then its over to the military base
for a radar directed approach...

Assuming you mean SAR (talkdown) approaches, it's not just the military
airfields that can do those over here. I did one during my IMC rating
training at Norwich airport. It was immense fun, actually, and the
controller told me later that he enjoys doing them for training flights as
it's excellent practice for the few real ones he has to do.

D.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 09:15:04 +0000 (UTC), "David Cartwright"
wrote:

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:LL9Xd.70090$Tt.44632@fed1read05...
Well.. if the localizer goes kaput... then it is the VOR backup.. but if
it's my receiver that has gone kaput.. then its over to the military base
for a radar directed approach...

Assuming you mean SAR (talkdown) approaches, it's not just the military
airfields that can do those over here. I did one during my IMC rating
training at Norwich airport. It was immense fun, actually, and the
controller told me later that he enjoys doing them for training flights as
it's excellent practice for the few real ones he has to do.


On Several occasions I've had MBS approach ask me if I'd be willing to
do a PAR for a new, or traineee controller.
They are harder to do when you can see outside as you tend to fly the
thing instead of doing what the controller is telling you.:-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



D.