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About avoiding airspace and cruising
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:27:05 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
Just call up the tower and tell them that you will be orbiting at 1500 (or whatever altitude you pick), near the north (east, whatever) edge of their airspace. I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but similar tips can apply to untowered airports if you're shooting photos or sightseeing near the pattern. Announcing your intentions by ANSWERING other aircraft in the pattern can help everyone's day stay nice. |
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About avoiding airspace and cruising
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Erik wrote: Jose wrote: I'm always afraid of sounding like a dumbs417 calling towers, though. I avoid it at every opportunity. You should practice it at every (reasonable) opportunity. They don't bite. Jose Unless you do something really dumb. Even when you do something really dumb, they don't bite. I was flying into SAC one time, and the tower told me to report left downwind. I had a brainfart and had my left and right confused, so I flew a right pattern. The guys in the tower noticed my mistake, but cleared me to land anyway. I'm sure they made some comments about my intelligence to each other, but nothing was said over the radio. I heard someone else do something similar at PAO, and when it was pointed out, they responded with "I always get confused when I fly inverted" and tower replied with "happens to me all the time too". Talking to tower or approach just takes practice to get comfortable with it. John -- John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/ |
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About avoiding airspace and cruising
In article , Rich Ahrens
wrote: Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:08:22 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in : vindictive == initiative And "uncongealed airspace"? Beats the opposite, I guess. fluidic space, anybody? |
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About avoiding airspace and cruising
On Apr 20, 5:35 pm, (John Clear) wrote:
In article , Erik wrote: Jose wrote: I'm always afraid of sounding like a dumbs417 calling towers, though. I avoid it at every opportunity. You should practice it at every (reasonable) opportunity. They don't bite. Jose Unless you do something really dumb. Even when you do something really dumb, they don't bite. I was flying into SAC one time, and the tower told me to report left downwind. I had a brainfart and had my left and right confused, so I flew a right pattern. The guys in the tower noticed my mistake, but cleared me to land anyway. I'm sure they made some comments about my intelligence to each other, but nothing was said over the radio. I heard someone else do something similar at PAO, and when it was pointed out, they responded with "I always get confused when I fly inverted" and tower replied with "happens to me all the time too". Talking to tower or approach just takes practice to get comfortable with it. John -- John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/ I've found that some tower folks can be very enjoyable to talk with. Just don't be funny when there are more than one or two aircraft in the area. The tower folks have to be on top of the job and professional. |
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About avoiding airspace and cruising
wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 20, 5:35 pm, (John Clear) wrote: I've found that some tower folks can be very enjoyable to talk with. Just don't be funny when there are more than one or two aircraft in the area. The tower folks have to be on top of the job and professional. I find it to be about 50/50. I have to admit having worked with a number of controllers with a good attitude towards work, and it makes being part of the "system" very enjoyable. But I have also had some really bad experiences with others as well, and it happens to dang often. I think if the FAA and fellow controllers would better "police" the problem children, a lot more pilots would utilize ATC services insteading of flight planning to avoid them, and everyone would benefit. |
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About avoiding airspace and cruising
Thomas Borchert wrote:
Erik, I avoid it at every opportunity. Big mistake. Huge! Many accident reports where one just has to think: Why didn't he just tell them? Your original question is the perfect example. Imagine the controllers have a radar screen and there comes this blip flying in real close to their airspace and starts circling right where the planes come in. You better believe they'd love to know what that blip has in mind, however awkward the guy piloting the blip might explain it ;-) Even if something like that can't be found in the standard phraseology, if you make it concise and to the point, everybody will win. Go become a talker! It's better for you and for everyone around. Yep, that's my thought. I'd rather be awkward than dead, or worse yet living while other people got killed in some horrible accident that was easy to prevent. |
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