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Old December 3rd 05, 07:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Well, I guess tightening up the through-bolts is OK, as long as you
don't over-torque them.

I just rebuilt an O-300 and have worked on several of them. They are
great engines, though at 145HP and 7 to 1 compression not behemoths of
power. Crush washers on the rear case and on the oil sump are bad to
leak, if they have been over-used. Buy new ones; they're cheap anyhow.
Sometimes you'll have a leak on the rear case where a stud has been
pulled loose from the magnesium housing, like at the seal cover for the
tach drive.

I see a lot of leaks around the pushrod-tube-to-crankcase boots, which
are easy to get off their seats or not have their spring clamps seated
properly. Those boots are tough and will last to TBO, but sometimes
you'll have to adjust one to get it to do its work.

To find a leak I always clean the engine and fire it up with the cowl
off. Run it just long enough to get the oil warm and don't fry your
cylinders. Leave your aircraft on the ramp so you can see where it's
dripping. Invariably we have found our culprit leak and been able to
stop it.

I always paint gaskets like valve cover gaskets, and all the other
gaskets, with High-Tack, front and back. If you get any leak around
any of those gaskets the oil will be dyed red by the High-Tack, so you
know generally where it's coming from.

Of course, CA glue is great for stopping seepage around bolts and seams
in the case. Put a vacuum cleaner to the oil filler and apply the
glue.

Finally, if people would handle cylinders gingerly and not hold them by
their pushrod tubes, the damn things wouldn't leak. Having to use
that beading tool to seal the tubes inside the cylinder head just means
the cylinder was abused by someone.

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Of course, CA glue is great for stopping seepage around bolts and seams
in the case. Put a vacuum cleaner to the oil filler and apply the
glue.
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maybe everyone besides me knows this, but what is "CA glue" - CyanoAcrylate glue?

TIA,

frank

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Old December 4th 05, 02:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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clipclip wrote:

maybe everyone besides me knows this, but what is "CA glue" -
CyanoAcrylate glue?


Contact Adhesive aka Superglue
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Old December 4th 05, 03:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I don't know what to do about this . . . hoping the collective wisdom
here might have some ideas. For the last 3 months or so, after every
flight, there are small streaks of oil on the inside of the lower
cowling on my 67 'Hawk . . . if I don't wipe them up, they drip down on
the tire of my nose gear. My mechanics have replaced all 6 rocker box
covers and gaskets, and re-flared the push rod tubes. I have spent
almost $1000.00 so far and it's still leaking. It holds pressure just
fine . . . my mechanics are now suggesting replacing all the push rod
tubes, but I get the feeling they are just guessing.
Any ideas?

www.Rosspilot.com

I agree with Kobra. I went through the same thing with my 0-300 and was
able to confirm (with great effort I might add) that the through bolts
are leaking. My mechanic confirmed that the 'O' rings in the case
halves do harden with age and the holes terminate outside the cylinder
seal. This is where the oil leaks, from under the cylinder at the
bolts. Looks like the push rod tubes and will drive you crazy. Since
giving up I am OK with flying a drippy plane. Keeps the belly from
corroding I figure. I have found that the absolute best way to find
leaks is the dye that shows up under a 'black light' (the ones that
glow yellow are my favorite) after a through cleaning. I seem to
remember the stuff being available on Ebay.

Jim

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Old December 4th 05, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On 12/4/2005 6:36 AM, Darrel Toepfer wrote:

clipclip wrote:

maybe everyone besides me knows this, but what is "CA glue" -
CyanoAcrylate glue?


Contact Adhesive aka Superglue


Ummm, CA stands for Cyanoacrylate. It comes in different viscosities,
basically thin, medium and thick (and possibly others?).

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Sacramento, CA
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Old December 4th 05, 07:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Finally, if people would handle cylinders gingerly and not hold them by
their pushrod tubes, the damn things wouldn't leak. Having to use
that beading tool to seal the tubes inside the cylinder head just means
the cylinder was abused by someone.


Amen to that. However, the aluminum head expands at twice the rate of
the steel tubes (the coefficient of linear thermal expansion) and this
tends to leave the tubes a little loose when things are hot. I don't
know if Continental relied on the metal-to-metal seal when they
manufactured them, or if there was some sort of sealant used that
crumbles or disappears with age. That's why I use the Loctite, after
the cylinders are installed so that the tubes won't be moved anymore,
and the Loctite, being plastic and having a much larger expansion rate
than even aluminum, keeps things sealed up all the time. Loctites reach
their maximum strength at around 300 degrees, too.

Dan

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Old December 5th 05, 03:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Darrel Toepfer wrote:

Contact Adhesive aka Superglue


Contact adhesive is completely different from Superglue. Superglue is a brand of
cyanoacrylic glue. Contact adhesive is more viscous and resembles thin rubber
cement. You apply a thin layer to two surfaces, let it dry, and put the surfaces
together. It bonds as soon as the surfaces make contact; hence, the name. It's
used for things like applying plastic laminate to substrate material for
countertops.

George Patterson
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your slightly older self.
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Old December 5th 05, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I seem to remember the stuff being available on Ebay.


NAPA also used to sell it.

George Patterson
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