AIR-2A Genie on F-104 true or false ?

I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
options .
Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
the viewer to believe .
Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106

"Prowlus" wrote in message
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I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
options .
Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
the viewer to believe .
Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106

The F-102 did not carry the Genie, but instead was armed with Falcons and
2.75-inch unguided rockets. The only aircraft to carry the Genie were the
F-89, F-101, and F-106.

www.astronautix.com/lvs/genie.htm

Brooks

"Prowlus" wrote in message
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I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
options .
Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
the viewer to believe .
Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106

I seem to remember that it was at least tested with a Genie. There was
footage of a launch, from the center line, in an old documentary program on
TV...maybe Wings or something?

Don H.

"Don Harstad" wrote in message
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| "Prowlus" wrote in message
| om...
| I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
| week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
| mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
| options .
| Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
| or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
| pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
| the viewer to believe .
| Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
| it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
| software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106
|
| I seem to remember that it was at least tested with a Genie. There was
| footage of a launch, from the center line, in an old documentary program
on
| TV...maybe Wings or something?
|
| Don H.
|
|



Would be a very flat Genie, there can't be a lot of ground clearance on an
F-104.





Cheers


Dave Kearton

"Prowlus" wrote in message
om...
I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
options .
Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
the viewer to believe .
Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106

That's what the trapeze was for but I don't believe it was bought.

Dave Kearton wrote:

"Don Harstad" wrote in message
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|
| "Prowlus" wrote in message
| om...
| I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
| week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
| mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
| options .
| Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
| or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
| pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
| the viewer to believe .
| Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
| it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
| software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106
|
| I seem to remember that it was at least tested with a Genie. There was
| footage of a launch, from the center line, in an old documentary program
on
| TV...maybe Wings or something?
|
| Don H.
|
|

Would be a very flat Genie, there can't be a lot of ground clearance on an
F-104.

The C/L station was used to carry nukes on the F-104C and G models. Judging by
the ca. 2,000 lb weight I'm guessing Mk.28s. Genie, no, not an operational
load, although I can't say no one ever tested the idea. However, if you saw it
on some "History Channel" or similar show it's almost guaranteed to be wrong.
They aren't written for the Buff or serious historian, and they tend to be full
of easy to spot errors.

Guy

In article , "Dave Kearton"
wrote:

"Don Harstad" wrote in message
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|
| "Prowlus" wrote in message
| om...
| I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
| week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
| mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
| options .
| Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
| or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
| pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is
| leadin
| the viewer to believe .
| Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
| it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
| software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106
|
| I seem to remember that it was at least tested with a Genie. There was
| footage of a launch, from the center line, in an old documentary
| program
on
| TV...maybe Wings or something?
|
| Don H.
|
|



Would be a very flat Genie, there can't be a lot of ground clearance on
an
F-104.

Unbidden, I have a flash thought of referring to the F-104 as the
dachshund of high-performance aircraft. ;-)

"Howard Berkowitz" wrote in message
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| Unbidden, I have a flash thought of referring to the F-104 as the
| dachshund of high-performance aircraft. ;-)




Quite apt.....and fortunate that Kelly Johnson left off the genitalia.






Cheers


Dave Kearton

According to the book Warbird Tech F-104
The Missile was fired about five times from the F-104. The airplane was also
ground tested while hanging from a crane. The test was a Skunk works
project.
Steve
"John Keeney" wrote in message
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"Prowlus" wrote in message
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I was watching this programme called "flying through time" which this
week was about the century series fighters from f-100 to f-106 and it
mentioned that the f-104 toted the genie rocket as one of its weapon
options .
Now this programme usually gives info whilst givin the wrong imagery
or both but it did show a zipper with a weird retractable centerline
pylon supposedly for a big honking genie as so the programme is leadin
the viewer to believe .
Is this a genuine capability for a Starfighter? I would have thought
it wouldn't have the loading capacity for such a weapon or even the
software to launch it unlike the F-102 or F-106

That's what the trapeze was for but I don't believe it was bought.

"Steve Jahn" wrote in message
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| According to the book Warbird Tech F-104
| The Missile was fired about five times from the F-104. The airplane was
also
| ground tested while hanging from a crane. The test was a Skunk works
| project.
| Steve



Well I sit corrected. Thanks



Do you know whether it was fired from the centreline or a wing station
?





Cheers


Dave Kearton