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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... "Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote: While I think the 30NM is a little much do you understand the damage to the US and world economy if the President were to be killed. The stock market drop alone would reduce world wealth by a significant amount. Not if you wouldn't make such a hype about this person (whoever holds it) and the office. He is replaceable, the vice-president is here to step up behind him. #m -- Three witches watch three Swatch watches. Which witch watches which Swatch watch? Well, if you haven't noticed the economic markets pretty much are based on hype and the worse kind of hype, as far as economic markets are concerned is hype about uncertainty. So if a President gets whacked there is all sorts of uncertainty. Will the VP be up to the job? Will we go to war? Will be start throwing nukes around? Add to this that the largest perceived threat is from folks that are in one way or another tied to the counties that produce our primary source of energy and you have a situation that just oozes uncertainty. So let's protect the guy in the office. It's cheaper in the long run. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:AudYe.356708$_o.211591@attbi_s71... Just another day in the wonderful world of aviation... You were held up at public airport for the *Dahli Llama*? In Arizona, USA? That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des Moines! I'm torn between laughter and incredulity. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges, I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop." Your experience with John Edwards was caused by the Secret Service. I was asked politely by a beat cop if I would mind waiting five extra minutes until the delegation was on board their plane. And, if I hadn't been otherwise engaged with photography matters, I would have been long gone before his convoy (all of 2 cars and two police SUVs) got to the ramp. In fact, I taxied out right behind the G-V and could have done a lot more damage to his plane with a spinning prop than I could have standing a couple hundred yards away watching while he boarded. The man is a guest in our country (in general) and in MY state in particular .... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative. Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:15:26 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in ZqhYe.69133$7f5.61661@okepread01:: Will the VP be up to the job? I thought Cheney had been pulling Bush's strings for the past five years. Or was it Rove, the Bush advisor who outed the CIA operative, and was made a FEMA wag instead of being fired as baby Bush promised the American people? |
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I'm torn between laughter and incredulity.
Would you feel the same if it were the pope? Yes -- although the Pope has some credibility behind his quasi-diplomatic status. I don't know what's worse -- having second-rate politicians thinking that they're better than the rest of us, or having "men of the cloth" thinking the same thing. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" "JohnH" wrote in message ... Jay Honeck wrote: Just another day in the wonderful world of aviation... You were held up at public airport for the *Dahli Llama*? In Arizona, USA? That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des Moines! |
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That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des
Moines! C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges, I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop." I understand. But while it's true that no leathernecks with machine guns stopped you from approaching your aircraft (as happened to my family when a two-bit politician was "expected" to arrive "any minute" in Des Moines last year), the implications and results are similar. I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people are -- and I'm glad you didn't mind the inconvenience. But that doesn't change the fact that the whole affair was a ridiculous (albeit small) infringement upon your personal freedom. ... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative. I'd have probably done the same thing as you -- being polite and cooperative with the police comes naturally for most of us. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:56:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in lOjYe.394864$xm3.272245@attbi_s21:: I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people are -- The Catholic pedo, er... priests are nearly saintly. :-) |
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Larry Dighera wrote in
: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:56:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote in lOjYe.394864$xm3.272245@attbi_s21:: I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people are -- The Catholic pedo, er... priests are nearly saintly. :-) I recall seeing an interview with the Dalai Lama, I think on 60 minutes, some years ago. I was very impressed at the intelligence and thoughtfulness of the man. His remarks were always very direct, no double talk mumbo-jumbo. For a religious leader he was very down to earth and personable. No holier-than-thou attitude. Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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Skywise wrote:
I recall seeing an interview with the Dalai Lama, I think on 60 minutes, some years ago. I was very impressed at the intelligence and thoughtfulness of the man. His remarks were always very direct, no double talk mumbo-jumbo. For a religious leader he was very down to earth and personable. No holier-than-thou attitude. Brian If I understand it correctly, his religion believes that there are many paths to enlightenment/heaven/nirvana/whatever, and that how you get there is entirely up to you. Further, while they are plenty willing to share their thoughts, you have to take the initiative to ask - they're not going to cram their beliefs down your throat. All-in-all a very refreshing attitude compared to many western religions/religous leaders, where you're automatically doomed to hell unless you believe exactly as they believe. |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm torn between laughter and incredulity. Would you feel the same if it were the pope? Yes -- although the Pope has some credibility behind his quasi-diplomatic status. I don't know what's worse -- having second-rate politicians thinking that they're better than the rest of us, or having "men of the cloth" thinking the same thing. Agreed. WRT politicians, whatever became of the concept of "all men created equal"? |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:lOjYe.394864$xm3.272245@attbi_s21... That's even worse than being held up for John Edwards last year in Des Moines! C'mon Jay ... Apples and Oranges, I was not held up...and there was no official "Ground Stop." I understand. But while it's true that no leathernecks with machine guns stopped you from approaching your aircraft (as happened to my family when a two-bit politician was "expected" to arrive "any minute" in Des Moines last year), the implications and results are similar. No they're not. I was never prevented from accessing the ramp or my aircraft and I was not told I couldn't fire up and taxi out. I was asked something, not told. In fact, had I not walked out to my plane, and just sat right where I was on the "back porch" of the Tucson Executive Terminal, I probably would have been able to get some really good photos. But had they asked me to not use my camera, I would have complied as I was not there in any official press capacity. Now, if I was "working press" that's a whole different matter... I'm sure the Dahli Llama is a heckuva nice guy -- most religious people are -- and I'm glad you didn't mind the inconvenience. But that doesn't change the fact that the whole affair was a ridiculous (albeit small) infringement upon your personal freedom. I disagree. This was not a moment to invoke the second coming of Thomas Payne. ... Personally, I'd rather give the Dahli Llama five minutes than give anyone a chance to think that Americans (in general) and GA pilots in particular are ignorant, arrogant and uncooperative. I'd have probably done the same thing as you -- being polite and cooperative with the police comes naturally for most of us. The heck with the cop! Any idea just how bad your karma could get if you mess with the #1 Budhist in the world !??! Jay B |
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