"Rolling" to ATC

In a previous article, Mxsmanic said:
book before he hits the PTT button next time. Most airline captains
are eager to win the approval of low-time GA pilots back in the cabin,
and will even instruct their crews to actively seek out the counsel of
these experts to bring back to the cockpit.

Much like the way real pilots actively seek out the counsel and approval
of simulator dweebs.


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Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
As it should be - snipe at *.mil and expect to drop any plans for
the rest of that day.
-- Alex

Paul Tomblin wrote:


Then there is the stunning load of crap in Michael Crichton's "Airframe":

"Tower zero one request clearance for takeoff."
"Cleared runway three contact ground point six three when off the runway."



I like that! ;-)

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, Mxsmanic said:

book before he hits the PTT button next time. Most airline captains
are eager to win the approval of low-time GA pilots back in the cabin,
and will even instruct their crews to actively seek out the counsel of
these experts to bring back to the cockpit.


Much like the way real pilots actively seek out the counsel and approval
of simulator dweebs.



Maybe we can get this person to hold an advanced seminar for
professional pilots and controllers. We all need serious insights from
the real pros (aka, "experts" as defined as a "has been, know it all,"
or a "drip under pressure.")

On 02/05/07 05:54, Sam Spade wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

Thomas Borchert writes:


However, if you ever hear a captain say the "wrong" thing on the
radio, you can certainly call over an FA and insist that she
communicate your displeasure to him, and perhaps he'll look at the
book before he hits the PTT button next time. Most airline captains
are eager to win the approval of low-time GA pilots back in the cabin,
and will even instruct their crews to actively seek out the counsel of
these experts to bring back to the cockpit.

Oh Bull****.

First place, only United Airlines pipes ATC into the cabin. Second, it
is up to the captain and far fewer do it since 911.

Flight attendants are training NOT to take such bull**** from a
passenger to the flight deck.

Good God, Sam. He was yanking your chain ;-\

Exactly. Playing.




Mxsmanic wrote:

Under what conditions, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, if any,
would you explicitly tell ATC, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator
that you are rolling, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, that is,
actually rolling on the runway for take-off, when playing with Microsoft
Flight Simulator?

I hear this used occasionally, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator,
but I don't know if there are any formal circumstances that merit it, when
playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, or what. It is
normally independent of the readback of the take-off clearance (which
precedes it), when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, although
sometimes I hear "Rolling" without a readback of the clearance, when playing
with Microsoft Flight Simulator.

"Newps" wrote in message
...
Exactly. Playing.

Hmmm...playing with himself.


Mxsmanic wrote:

Under what conditions, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, if
any, would you explicitly tell ATC, when playing with Microsoft Flight
Simulator that you are rolling, when playing with Microsoft Flight
Simulator, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off, when
playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator?

I hear this used occasionally, when playing with Microsoft Flight
Simulator, but I don't know if there are any formal circumstances that
merit it, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, or if it is just
at pilot discretion, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator, or
what. It is normally independent of the readback of the take-off
clearance (which precedes it), when playing with Microsoft Flight
Simulator, although sometimes I hear "Rolling" without a readback of the
clearance, when playing with Microsoft Flight Simulator.

In a previous article, Sam Spade said:
Maybe we can get this person to hold an advanced seminar for
professional pilots and controllers. We all need serious insights from
the real pros (aka, "experts" as defined as a "has been, know it all,"
or a "drip under pressure.")

A former drip under pressure is an "ex-spurt".

--
Paul Tomblin http://blog.xcski.com/
FAQs are like flatulence. Any asshole can produce them.
-- Toni L

Mxsmanic,

See? That wasn't so hard now, was it?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.


What is the name of Dagwood's wife?

Blondie.

Al G

Sam Spade writes:

Where have you heard this?

Listening to ATC.

I have never, ever heard such nonsense instructions.

Maybe you should listen to more ATC.

Here is how it would be done professionally:

"United 123 turn left heading 225, cleared for takeoff."

Next time I hear ATC do it "unprofessionally," I'll be sure to write
them a strongly-worded letter communicating your disapproval. That'll
whip them into shape.

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