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Old October 30th 03, 04:18 PM
Mike
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120-foot journey to immortality
Life: Wilbur and Orville Wright weren't born with wings, but that
didn't stop them from flying. Almost 100 years ago, the duo
accomplished what had seemed impossible: They solved the problem of
human mechanical flight.
at http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20031...3416-7221r.htm
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Old October 30th 03, 04:45 PM
Terry Simpson
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Mike wrote:
"Wilbur and Orville Wright ... solved the problem of
human mechanical flight."


Not quite. Human mechanical flight had already been achieved. The Wright
brothers are atttributed with the first *powered* flight.


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Old October 31st 03, 04:43 AM
Steve Hix
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In article ,
"Terry Simpson" wrote:

Mike wrote:
"Wilbur and Orville Wright ... solved the problem of
human mechanical flight."


Not quite. Human mechanical flight had already been achieved. The Wright
brothers are atttributed with the first *powered* flight.


First powered *controlled* flight?
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Old October 31st 03, 05:17 AM
Mary Shafer
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:43:23 -0800, Steve Hix
wrote:

In article ,
"Terry Simpson" wrote:

Mike wrote:
"Wilbur and Orville Wright ... solved the problem of
human mechanical flight."


Not quite. Human mechanical flight had already been achieved. The Wright
brothers are atttributed with the first *powered* flight.


First powered *controlled* flight?


First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.

Mary

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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

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Old October 31st 03, 05:34 AM
Steve Hix
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In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:43:23 -0800, Steve Hix
wrote:

In article ,
"Terry Simpson" wrote:

Mike wrote:
"Wilbur and Orville Wright ... solved the problem of
human mechanical flight."

Not quite. Human mechanical flight had already been achieved. The Wright
brothers are atttributed with the first *powered* flight.


First powered *controlled* flight?


First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.


Umm...I thought we were building up *slowly* to the denoument.
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Old October 31st 03, 06:42 AM
Phil Budne
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In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:
First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.


Each time I see the list of qualifiers on the Wright Brothers flight,
I want to find the list of previous "flights"

Did someone make a heavier-than-air, powered, uncontrolled level flight?
A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, non-maneuvering level flight?
A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering, downhill flight?

Can any reccomend a good web page or book?

just curious
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Old October 31st 03, 08:40 AM
Keith Willshaw
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"Phil Budne" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:
First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.


Each time I see the list of qualifiers on the Wright Brothers flight,
I want to find the list of previous "flights"

Did someone make a heavier-than-air, powered, uncontrolled level flight?


Yes - Clement Ader in France

A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, non-maneuvering level flight?


Yes - Clement Ader again

A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering, downhill flight?


Sir George Cayley designed several gliders and reportedly at least
one steam powered machine that were flown downhill by his coachman

Can any reccomend a good web page or book?


Google will get you lots

Keith


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Old October 31st 03, 03:43 PM
Dave Holford
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Phil Budne wrote:

In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:
First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.


Each time I see the list of qualifiers on the Wright Brothers flight,
I want to find the list of previous "flights"

Did someone make a heavier-than-air, powered, uncontrolled level flight?
A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, non-maneuvering level flight?
A heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering, downhill flight?

Can any reccomend a good web page or book?

just curious



Google search "John Stringfellow"
Powered heavier-than-air model in 1848, but didn't have the 'control'
requirement figured out. Worked OK in a controlled indoor environment
but he failed to appreciate the need for a vertical stabilizer.

Dave
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Old November 1st 03, 10:05 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:43:23 -0800, Steve Hix
wrote:

In article ,
"Terry Simpson" wrote:

Mike wrote:
"Wilbur and Orville Wright ... solved the problem of
human mechanical flight."

Not quite. Human mechanical flight had already been achieved. The

Wright
brothers are atttributed with the first *powered* flight.


First powered *controlled* flight?


First heavier-than-air, powered, controlled, maneuvering flight in
which the vehicle landed at an altitude approximately that at which it
took off, actually.


Were those the rules of the contest?


 




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