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An open message to the group.
I just became aware of the other group that posts movies
as a norm. I never heard of it before and for some reason my server doesn't carry it. I'll check with my isp. In light of this news however, I do not apologize for posting what the title of this group name represents, a binary format. The fact that the word binaries is included in the group name one would believe a movie file could be uploaded here. A simple picture is a binary format, a movie is a binary format. What's the difference, size? If you want "still" pictures only, then name the group to reflect that issue: alt.binaries.still.pictures.aviation. The word pictures to me means, still pictures, scanned pictures movie pictures and anything else related to aviation that is binary and picture related. You don't like what I post, don't look at it. Not sure what a file is about, don't mess with it. The way a few people here describes a binary group makes the words binaries and pictures in the same sentence nothing but a contradictions of terms. It's silly. The fact that I have seen movies uploaded here by others, albeit very rare allowed me to believe no problems should arise from it. As far as file size, I post for the fun of it. I have no idea how many files will be produced. To big? I could have used yEnc and reduced the lot by a considerable amount, but we know what yEnc will get us here. WITCH! WITCH! yEnc is witchcraft! HA! HA! HA! HA! ya, right! Don't come back with your facts and figures boring me with what you have or have not seen posted here. It's obvious what I see posted is not what you see and visa versa. That point is mute. Does this mean animated gif's, swf files and the like are not permitted either? It's a rhetorical question, don't answer it. The norm here is that if anyone posts something that emphasizes what you don't like about a file or its content, then loud-mouthed insensitive pompous bashing commences! I post a funny movie short not in yEnc to avoid that issue all- together and all you people do is bitch. Tell you what, I don't appreciate hanger queen files, I think they are tacky and if I want to see naked women there are more appropriate places on the Internet for that stuff. Next time a plane goes down, don't post the information here. There's another NG for that stuff. Next time you find pictures of military planes, don't post them here. There's another NG for that stuff. Next time a safety issue for planes comes up, don't post the information here. There's another NG for that stuff. Next time you have pictures of R/C planes, don't post the stuff here. There's another NG for that. The point here as we all know it, is that they are all aviation related and fun to share. What's the point going to numerous NG's? I don't waste my time viewing things I'm not interested in or what files in my opinion are to big. Actually, when I saw how many files my movie upload produced I swallowed hard. I had no idea that many files would be produced. For that fact and my oversight (as someone pointed out) for not mentioning what the movie was about I apologize, but that's where my apology ends. Maybe I should start showing my condemnation for things I don't like to see here. Let it be known I'm not putting up with anyones crap anymore. You don't care for me, tough. Notify my ISP of your personality crises. You don't like what I post, tough. As long as I stay within the boundries of my ISP there is no problem as YOU think you see it. Plonk me, don't view what I post, it's no skin off my nose. |
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"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136... I just became aware of the other group that posts movies as a norm. I never heard of it before and for some reason my server doesn't carry it. I'll check with my isp. I've been coming here since 1999 - vids are fine as long as they are on-topic. If I didn't want to see a vid, I suppose there are ways of excluding them, even for OE. I for one don't have any problem with you posting. I only have a problem with part-posts (x/x). Other than that, go for it. |
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"Alan Erskine" wrote in news:xsffk.20081
: "Clem" wrote in message . 97.136... I just became aware of the other group that posts movies as a norm. I never heard of it before and for some reason my server doesn't carry it. I'll check with my isp. I've been coming here since 1999 - vids are fine as long as they are on-topic. If I didn't want to see a vid, I suppose there are ways of excluding them, even for OE. I for one don't have any problem with you posting. I only have a problem with part-posts (x/x). Other than that, go for it. I'm getting the impression that not all NG readers distinguish between a simple picture or something more complicated like a movie file. My reader shows an entire list of what is available to view and indicates which are simple pictures, movies, file types and so on. As far as eliminating part-posts, I'm sure you know the idea was to cut a big file into smaller pieces making it easier for the server to handle. All the NG readers I ever used, assemble the individual files seamlessly. It doesn't get much easier than that. I think most of the problem here lays in the fact that some people don't know how to handle anything beyond a simple binary file. I'm not saying that as put-down towards anyone. It's a fact of life that not everyone has the same abilities. Just a wild guess on my part. Thanks for your input and yes, the file was aviation related with a comical spirit. The video actually won an award. |
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An open message to the group.
"Clem" wrote in message
. 97.136... As far as eliminating part-posts, I'm sure you know the idea was to cut a big file into smaller pieces making it easier for the server to handle. All the NG readers I ever used, assemble the individual files seamlessly. It doesn't get much easier than that. The problem with breaking big files into smaller sections is that not all of them come through. If it's under, say, 3mb, it shouldn't be a problem for most people these days (I've had cable for over five years). OE can sort files by size, in addition to sorting by subject, poster etc; if people are on a dial-up modem, they can simply exclude files that are too large (tools, message rules, "where the message size is a certain size"). |
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An open message to the group.
"Alan Erskine" wrote in
: "Clem" wrote in message . 97.136... As far as eliminating part-posts, I'm sure you know the idea was to cut a big file into smaller pieces making it easier for the server to handle. All the NG readers I ever used, assemble the individual files seamlessly. It doesn't get much easier than that. The problem with breaking big files into smaller sections is that not all of them come through. If it's under, say, 3mb, it shouldn't be a problem for most people these days (I've had cable for over five years). OE can sort files by size, in addition to sorting by subject, poster etc; if people are on a dial-up modem, they can simply exclude files that are too large (tools, message rules, "where the message size is a certain size"). What a server accepts or is still in the process of putting up for download is something I have no control over. After I posted the files I checked and all were there. It took less than 20 seconds to upload the file which is a fraction of my download rate, approximately 6meg. Someone said it took forever. Boo! Hoo! get rid of the dialup. What are posters required to do, offer a guarantee that all files download in "X" amount of time? I don't understand some peoples approach to a file sized at over 34,000 lines being good, but a movie file part at 8,000 lines is bad? No, the nay-sayers are just upset because it's a file beyond their ability to control or they don't understand it. I could double to 16K per file slice making it more difficult to pass between servers, but what good would that do? The actual processing (transfers, timeouts and the like) between servers are beyond a posters control. A simple picture file may not post to other servers completely or at all. That's not the fault of a poster. It would be nice if companies that maintain NG servers would decide once and for all a uniform file size that any server could accept from posters and also the transfer rates between servers. This is a problem we have all faced even with simple posting and never realized how much we were missing. One person says there is no problem because according to him, he see's his 50 or so average posts a day come through the system. On the other hand, I might recieve 90 or 100 a day. There are spuratic problems with different systems not to mention that NG providers are now filtering content and eliminating groups they consider to be illegal. I could upload it again as a test file and we can see if anything changes. |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:10:46 -0500, Clem
wrote: "Alan Erskine" wrote in : "Clem" wrote in message . 97.136... As far as eliminating part-posts, I'm sure you know the idea was to cut a big file into smaller pieces making it easier for the server to handle. All the NG readers I ever used, assemble the individual files seamlessly. It doesn't get much easier than that. The problem with breaking big files into smaller sections is that not all of them come through. If it's under, say, 3mb, it shouldn't be a problem for most people these days (I've had cable for over five years). OE can sort files by size, in addition to sorting by subject, poster etc; if people are on a dial-up modem, they can simply exclude files that are too large (tools, message rules, "where the message size is a certain size"). What a server accepts or is still in the process of putting up for download is something I have no control over. After I posted the files I checked and all were there. It took less than 20 seconds to upload the file which is a fraction of my download rate, approximately 6meg. Someone said it took forever. Boo! Hoo! get rid of the dialup. What are posters required to do, offer a guarantee that all files download in "X" amount of time? Agreed. I don't understand some peoples approach to a file sized at over 34,000 lines being good, but a movie file part at 8,000 lines is bad? Because 95% of the population is stupid. We need a serious culling. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com ,c,.. ,J$$$$PJ$CJ$c . .,$$$$C$$$$$$$$$$$$ ,L;$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$c ,',$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Lc, .J$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ,$`;?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ccJ???ccc ,P'.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$JP.`.`.`.?. ,J?`.`J$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P`.`.`.`.`$ ,$?.`.`.;$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$;`.`.`.`. `?. ,P?`.`.`.`.3$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$C;`.`.` .`.`.$ ,$".`.`.`.`.;;?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$C;;. `.`.`.`.3. ,$".`.`.`.`;;;;;;$$$$?`.`.`.`$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?$$$$; ;.`.`.`.`.?, ,P".`.`.`.,;;;;;;J" ?$F.`.`.`.`.?$$$$$$$$$$$$?$$$$$;;;`.`.`.`.`h ,$"`.`.`.`.,;;;;;;J" j'.`.`.`.`.`$h'.?$$$$$`.$'3$$$;;;`.`.`.`.`$ $`.`.`.`.;;;;;;;;P $.`.`.`.c$"'???`."??F`$".$$$$h;;`.`.`.`.`? $`.`.`.,;;;;;;;J" "h`.`c$"'cc?.`.`.`.`.`.`J$$$$$;;;.`.`.`.`?. ?;.`.`.;;;;;;j" ?ch`"'?$$F`.`.`.`.`.3i$$$$$$$h;;.`.`.`.`.h $;;.`.`;;;;;?h `?h.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.39$$$$$$$;;.`.`.`.`.$ $;;`.`.`;;;;;$. $.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.3C$$$$$$$;;.`.`.`.`.$ "i;,`.`.`.`.`?h. $.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.3C$$$$$$$;;.`.`.`.`.?. `h;;.`.`.`.`.`?h (`.cJF.`.`.`.`.`.`.J?;$$$$$$C;;`.`.`.`.`h ?;;,.`.`.`.`.`"h_ ""L`.,,.`.`.`.`.`J?;;$$$$$$C;;`.`.`.`.`?. "h;;;.`.`.`.`.`.?c_ 3$$$F.`.`.`.`.J?;;;;?;$$$C;;`.`.`.`.`.? ?i;;`.`.`.`.`.`.`"=,_ `$i`.`.`.`.,$;;;;;;;;;;tC;;`.`.`.`.`.`h `$;;.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`?hc `h.`.`.,$?;;;;;;;;;;;9C;;`.`.`.`.`.`?. "h;;;`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.?h$u,,c??;;;;;;;;;;;;;$;;.`.` .`.`.`.`.? ?;;;;`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`?h. $;;;;;;;;;;;;$;;.`.`.`.`.`.`.`h `h;;,.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.?c,$;;;;;;;;;;;J;;;.`.`.`. `.`.`.`$ `h;;;,`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`$;;;;;;;;;;;$;;;.`.`.`.`. `.`.`$ "i;;;;;.`.`.`.`.`,;;;;j?;;;;;;;;;;;P;;;.`.`.`.`.`. `.`? "i;;;;;;;;,.`.`.`.`.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;.`;;.`.`.`.`. `3 ?;;;;;;;;.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.;;;.,;;.`.`.`.`.`J `h;;;;;`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.:;;;;;`.`.`.`.`.`$ $;;j.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.::`.;;;.`.`.`.`.J' ?;F.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`:`.`.`.`.`.`.,$ $`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`:`.`.`.`.`.`.P ,P`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.:.`.`.`.`.`.`$ $.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.:.`.`.`.`.`.,F j'.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.:.`.`.`.`.`.$ j.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`:;.`.`.`.`.`,F J`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`;L.`.`.`.`.`$ ,$.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.:;C.`.`.`.`.J J$?.`.`.`.`.`.`;`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.;;$.`.`.`.`j' $$;$.`.`.`.`.`.J;`.`.c?$i`.`.`.`.;;F.`.`.`.`$ `hJ?.`.`.`.,;;`$;`.`3$C$$`.`.`.`;;j'.`.`.`.$ ?h;;`.`.;;;;;;C;;.`.$jjF`.`.`.;;;F`.`.`.`J' $;;;;;;;;;;;;$;;;`.`.`.`.`;;;;;$.`.`.`.j' $;;;;;;;;;`;?i;;;;;,,;;;;;;;jP`.`.`.`,P ?i;;;;;;.`;;?i;;;;;;;;;;;j$".`.`.`.`$ ?$??'`.`;;;;?hiijjjiiJ?`.`.`.`.`.J' j'.`.`.`.;;;;;;;;;;;.`.`.`.`.`.`.$ J`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`J' $`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.;P P`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.$ ;'`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`j' 3.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`$ $.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.J' $.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.F |
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Just as a matter of interest my ISP down here in OZ only actually listed 3
of the 24 files that you had sent - so for some of us it is really a pain not only able to see it, and hence pass comment on it's relevance etc, but really is a waste of space on the news group. Whenever I see a movie of any kind that I think the group would be interested in I just simply post the link - saves a heap of angst. see ya Conscious Pilate |
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"Conscious Pilate" wrote in message
u... Just as a matter of interest my ISP down here in OZ only actually listed 3 of the 24 files that you had sent - so for some of us it is really a pain not only able to see it, and hence pass comment on it's relevance etc, but really is a waste of space on the news group. Whenever I see a movie of any kind that I think the group would be interested in I just simply post the link - saves a heap of angst. see ya Conscious Pilate Bloody Optusnet!!! I'm in the same boat too. Although, I was lucky enough to get 4 out of 24. BTW did you have trouble downloading alt.binary NG photo's in the last few weeks? It seems to have cleared up now. But at one stage, I was only able to open 40% of posts. Very annoying. Chris |
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VERY ANNOYING BECAUSE YOU BOTTOM POST
"Chris D" wrote in message u... "Conscious Pilate" wrote in message u... Just as a matter of interest my ISP down here in OZ only actually listed 3 of the 24 files that you had sent - so for some of us it is really a pain not only able to see it, and hence pass comment on it's relevance etc, but really is a waste of space on the news group. Whenever I see a movie of any kind that I think the group would be interested in I just simply post the link - saves a heap of angst. see ya Conscious Pilate Bloody Optusnet!!! I'm in the same boat too. Although, I was lucky enough to get 4 out of 24. BTW did you have trouble downloading alt.binary NG photo's in the last few weeks? It seems to have cleared up now. But at one stage, I was only able to open 40% of posts. Very annoying. Chris |
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An open message to the group.
"Chris D" wrote in message u... "Conscious Pilate" wrote in message u... Just as a matter of interest my ISP down here in OZ only actually listed 3 of the 24 files that you had sent - so for some of us it is really a pain not only able to see it, and hence pass comment on it's relevance etc, but really is a waste of space on the news group. Whenever I see a movie of any kind that I think the group would be interested in I just simply post the link - saves a heap of angst. see ya Conscious Pilate Bloody Optusnet!!! I'm in the same boat too. Although, I was lucky enough to get 4 out of 24. BTW did you have trouble downloading alt.binary NG photo's in the last few weeks? It seems to have cleared up now. But at one stage, I was only able to open 40% of posts. Very annoying. Chris Ditto. I'm also on Optusnet dial up, and was noticing the same thing. It was getting to the stage that some of the binaries postings were only being retained for what seemed like three hours, after which they were being deleted from the server. H. |
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