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BFR.. define "rated".



 
 
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Old September 21st 05, 11:09 PM
Dave S
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Default BFR.. define "rated".

Pinging the group for an answer here.

Scenario: Up for flight review, elect to have instruction in a
taildragger for the purpose of the flight review. Have a PP-ASEL, but do
NOT have a one time endorsement in tailwheel aircraft that permits one
to be PIC.

The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
"rated" for. Does rated apply to "category and class" or is there also
the need to meet tailwheel, complex or high performance as well (when
applicable)?

The part 61 FAQ's dont address the reviewee needing to have a tailwheel
endorsement specifically, only the reviewer/CFI.

Dave

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Old September 21st 05, 11:19 PM
Brian
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I believe that category and class is good enough for the definition of
"Rated" but I would have to do a bit of research to give you a 100% for
sure answer.

On the other hand it really shouldn't matter. It will likely take you
about 5 hours to get the Tailwheel endorsement. Most any instructor
would at the end of the 5 hours sign you off for a FR as long as you
also do the 1 hour of ground instruction required as well. Your time
might look like 4 hours of Dual in a tailwheel aircraft. 1 hour flight
training per FAR 61.56. You might have to a bit more for the FR than
just what is required for the tailwheel endorsement but it should be
less than doing them separately.

Brian
CFIIG/ASEL

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Old September 21st 05, 11:24 PM
Robert M. Gary
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Rating are things printed on your ticket. See FAR 1.

-Robert, CFI

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Old September 21st 05, 11:26 PM
RST Engineering
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My understanding is that you must have all the necessary qualifications in
that aircraft to act as PIC, which would include tailwheel, complex,
high-performance, etc.

Jim


The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
"rated" for. Does rated apply to "category and class" or is there also the
need to meet tailwheel, complex or high performance as well (when
applicable)?



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Old September 21st 05, 11:33 PM
Michael
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My understanding is that you must have all the necessary qualifications in
that aircraft to act as PIC, which would include tailwheel, complex,
high-performance, etc.


Your understanding is incorrect.

Category, class, and type if required.

In this case, airplane, single engine land

Michael

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Old September 21st 05, 11:39 PM
George Patterson
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Dave S wrote:

The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
"rated" for. Does rated apply to "category and class" or is there also
the need to meet tailwheel, complex or high performance as well (when
applicable)?


You need to be rated in category and class. Keep in mind, though, that somebody
needs to be acting PIC. If you don't have the tailwheel signoff, the CFI has to
have it.

George Patterson
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Old September 22nd 05, 12:04 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:09:31 GMT, Dave S
wrote in et::


The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
"rated" for.


http://tinyurl.com/b938n
Rating means a statement that, as a part of a certificate, sets
forth special conditions, privileges, or limitations.

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Old September 22nd 05, 12:13 AM
Sylvain
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Rating are things printed on your ticket. See FAR 1.


that was my reasoning too; i.e., the original poster
is fine (tailwheel, high-performance, complex, high-
altitude) are endorsements, not ratings.

--Sylvain
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Old September 22nd 05, 12:18 AM
RST Engineering
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And you all agree that "rated" and "rating" mean the same thing?

Jim


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:09:31 GMT, Dave S
wrote in et::


The regs say you must take the flight review in an aircraft that one is
"rated" for.


http://tinyurl.com/b938n
Rating means a statement that, as a part of a certificate, sets
forth special conditions, privileges, or limitations.



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Old September 22nd 05, 12:46 AM
Viperdoc
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So, if you have a SEL, MEL, and seaplane ratings do you have to do a BFR in
three different planes?


 




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