Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.


You appear to be the only one interested in that information.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:30:46 -0600 Big John wrote:

Hubbel

Single pilot fighters (Duce), you log PIC on all flights unless you
got god as your co-pilot like Scott of Flying Tigers book fame.


So was Dubya's time in a TF-102A or F-102?


R. Hubbell


Big John

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:09:55 -0800, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:53:28 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article qsGDb.18357$pY.9524@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

He flew F-102 supersonic jet interceptors, on active duty in the USAF
and later in the Texas Air Guard.

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.


Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.


R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:32:41 -0500 Cub Driver wrote:


No, the point is that you were never a military pilot, while George
Bush was, yet you take it on yourself to impugn his patriotism.

Again I never purported to be a military pilot. You're relying on fallacies
to bolster your argument because I don' think you've really got an argument.
Dubya's service record is sketchy. The fact that he will ground GA pilots
on the single most important day for GA in 100 years tells me that he can't
really be a pilot. I mean a true pilot, not one that flew around in a military
jet because his Daddy had "friends". His disappearance for 1.5 years is
documented. The trip to Kill Devil is another political stunt, like flying
into Iraq. If he was a real pilot he'd be flying a plane as PIC to Kill
Devil.


R. Hubbell


He served two years on active duty. How many did you serve? None,
right?

As for his hours, I believe they are on the web, on the same place I
found out about his military record. Interestingly, he learned to fly
in a Cessna. That was the first I knew that the Air Force used Cessnas
as trainers.

He didn't purport to be a military pilot: he *was* a military pilot.
He wasn't a combat pilot, but that is another matter entirely. Few
F-102 pilots ever served in Vietnam, because F-102s didn't have guns.
The few who went, transitioned to other aircraft.


all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Montblack" wrote in message
...
| ("MikeM" wrote)
| Bush is an IDIOT!
|
|
| Bush has the great (double) misfortune of being:
|
| 1. One of our least intelligent Presidents.
| 2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has ever
| had.
|

What you say may be true, but Reagan was smarter than Clinton. In fact, he
probably still is.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:49:53 GMT "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.


You appear to be the only one interested in that information.


Are you sure? How can you know what readers are interested in?


R. Hubbell

"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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Are you sure? How can you know what readers are interested in?


I can't. But I can tell what writers are interested in by what they write.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:08:10 -0500, "John Harlow"
wrote:

Sadly, my letter to CNN pointing this out had no effect. Damn right wing
media continues to kiss Bush's ass.

Thought it was a "left wing" media trying to get ratings in flyover
country.

See there? Without aviation there wouldn't *be* "flyover country", and
the whole country would have been colored in blue after the last
election. :-D

Rob, will free-associate for food, or block time

"Wdtabor" wrote in message
Let's see, does a regulatory agency override the Constitution?


Yes, obviously... The high court has refused to intervene... End of
discussion...

Denny - just as dismayed as you, but a realist...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
| ("MikeM" wrote)
| Bush is an IDIOT!
|
|
| Bush has the great (double) misfortune of being:
|
| 1. One of our least intelligent Presidents.
| 2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has
ever
| had.
|

What you say may be true, but Reagan was smarter than Clinton. In fact, he
probably still is.


Why does everyone seem to think intelligence is particularly
important? The 'smartest' government in UK history was that
of Harold Wilson in the 60's, with 6 Oxbridge stared 1st's in
the cabinet. They proceeded to bugger up everything they
touched (and being socialists, they wanted to touch everything).

Smart people tend to believe they know it all. Give me
superior judgment with a touch of humility any day.

--
Dr. Tony Cox
Citrus Controls Inc.
e-mail:
http://CitrusControls.com/

"Tony Cox" wrote in message
ink.net...

Why does everyone seem to think intelligence is particularly
important? The 'smartest' government in UK history was that
of Harold Wilson in the 60's, with 6 Oxbridge stared 1st's in
the cabinet. They proceeded to bugger up everything they
touched (and being socialists, they wanted to touch everything).

Smart people tend to believe they know it all. Give me
superior judgment with a touch of humility any day.


Smart people abhor socialism.