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Old March 26th 04, 12:01 PM
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"hobbit" wrote in message
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Perhaps our American friends would lease us a dozen B1's


And who's going to fly them?


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Old March 26th 04, 12:04 PM
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"Jim Herring" wrote in message
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hobbit wrote:

Does anyone have a sujestion as to what would be a good replacment for
Aussie aging F111?


Their own study says only new F111's work do the job.


There's a couple of issues here.

1. What is the current capability requirement of the F-111?
2. Is that capability requirement still relevant?
3. Is there a more effective means of meeting that capability, perhaps in a
different role?
4. Assuming the same capabilities are required, does anything do that?

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Old March 26th 04, 03:30 PM
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The Raven wrote:
There's a couple of issues here.

1. What is the current capability requirement of the F-111?
2. Is that capability requirement still relevant?
3. Is there a more effective means of meeting that capability, perhaps in a
different role?
4. Assuming the same capabilities are required, does anything do that?


http://f-111.net/CarloKopp/Defence-News-2908-P8.pdf
The idea of killing off the F-111 amounts to killing off the potential
political payoffs from its use in coalition campaigns, and if
substituted with smaller aircraft, imposes an extra burden on the US
tanker fleet. The alliance issues arising in the PacRim from the loss
of the F-111 are thus repeated on the global scene.


-HJC

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Old March 27th 04, 12:26 AM
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My vote: TACTOM on Collins class subs.


"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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The Raven wrote:
There's a couple of issues here.

1. What is the current capability requirement of the F-111?
2. Is that capability requirement still relevant?
3. Is there a more effective means of meeting that capability, perhaps

in a
different role?
4. Assuming the same capabilities are required, does anything do that?


http://f-111.net/CarloKopp/Defence-News-2908-P8.pdf
The idea of killing off the F-111 amounts to killing off the potential
political payoffs from its use in coalition campaigns, and if
substituted with smaller aircraft, imposes an extra burden on the US
tanker fleet. The alliance issues arising in the PacRim from the loss
of the F-111 are thus repeated on the global scene.


-HJC



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Old March 27th 04, 12:36 AM
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"Michael Smith" wrote in message
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"When it positively has to be there in three weeks ...."



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Old March 27th 04, 06:06 PM
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http://finance.news.com.au/common/st...55E521,00.html
Russell Lucas from Sale, Victoria says: "The current Defence plan
includes retiring the RAAF's two squadrons of F-111 strike aircraft
in 2010, at least 15 years before its existing service life expires."
Mr Lucas says this will "leave us without our most visible deterrent
to incursions by 'illegals', interdiction by terrorists and outright
invasion by foreign powers".


So how many boatloads of refugees, er I mean potential terrorists can a
single F-111 sortie terminate? ;-)

"The F-111 has been obsolete for some time now. In a modern
high-threat air combat scenario, the F-111 would not survive to the
target."


-HJC

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Old April 18th 04, 08:05 AM
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hobbit wrote:

Does anyone have a sujestion as to what would be a good replacment for
Aussie aging F111?



Want a used B1B Lancer??? Used little, long legs.



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Old April 20th 04, 06:26 PM
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"hobbit" wrote in message ...
Does anyone have a sujestion as to what would be a good replacment for
Aussie aging F111?


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Didn't the australian goverment already commit to purchasing the "Jack
of all Trades Fighter" as a Hornet and Aardvark sucessor?
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Old April 21st 04, 11:40 AM
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"Prowlus" wrote in message
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"hobbit" wrote in message

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Does anyone have a sujestion as to what would be a good replacment for
Aussie aging F111?


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Didn't the australian goverment already commit to purchasing the "Jack
of all Trades Fighter" as a Hornet and Aardvark sucessor?


JSF is what the government has thrown some money at but they have been
careful not to commit outright to it (where's the signed contract?).
Australia will most likely get the JSF to replace the F/A-18's (probably 75)
and argue that all the new UAV/UACV or stand-off capabilities will be
sufficient to replace the F-111.

As it stands now, F-111s will be retired in 2010 (to save dollars). Guess
when the JSF is planned to be available for Australia? Try 2012, assuming
some of the interested *non*-partners don't do some US political arm
twisting to get in first (which is already rumoured).


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