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China sub stalked U.S. fleet
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:47:03 GMT, Ricardo
wrote: While they might look with suspician at us, they REALLY don't trust the Russians, with whom they have a VERY long border and who, in the past, forced some territorial concessions upon them. They have never been happy with that and there is some evidence that they would like the land back. Bill Kambic Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão Much the same as Mexico and the USA! Indeed. But that has nothing to do with a Chinese sub shadowing a U.S. carrier. Bill Kambic Haras Lucero, Kingston, TN Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão |
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"Ricardo" wrote in message .uk... SNIP! SNIP! SNIP! I was merely quoting a press release at the time! It's not my fault if US Government agencies get their arses in a twist with facts - I was just passing it on. The press in US is not controlled by the government nor is it a government agency. If you mean the US Navy, as the origin of the press release, I would wager that it contained the correct information. The US press in its efforts to "sell the news", is not noted for its accuracy in reporting. If a few facts are left out, distorted, or sensationalized, it doesn't really matter to them as long as it SELLS! |
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In article , Ricardo wrote: "China, which has a rampant economy, has raised military spending by more than 10 per cent a year for 15 years. That has given the People's Liberation Army a bristling array of high-tech weaponry, including carrier-killing weapons. They threaten the vessels that have kept the Pacific a United States lake for more than half a century and that could block China's long-cherished dream of snuffing out the small democratic breakaway state of Taiwan. Er... maybe not. There's a lot of hyperbole about the "Chinese defense buildup." If you read the aviation press, there have been some pretty good articles in recent issues of Combat Airpower about the Chinese air force. In short, the aviation geeks are not impressed. The Chinese have bought a fair amount of new equipment, but they are also wedded to a lot of old and inferior equipment as well. And their flight hours are awful, averaging something like 40-60 per year. In other words, their pilots are getting in an average of about one hour of flight time a week. As far as the Chinese navy is concerned, people make a big deal out of their purchase of some modern Russian destroyers. But how many did they actually buy? Four? It's not a lot. One would think from the hyperbole that they now have a massive navy. They don't. It's not much bigger than it was ten years ago. D |
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DDAY wrote:
---------- In article , Ricardo wrote: "China, which has a rampant economy, has raised military spending by more than 10 per cent a year for 15 years. That has given the People's Liberation Army a bristling array of high-tech weaponry, including carrier-killing weapons. They threaten the vessels that have kept the Pacific a United States lake for more than half a century and that could block China's long-cherished dream of snuffing out the small democratic breakaway state of Taiwan. Er... maybe not. There's a lot of hyperbole about the "Chinese defense buildup." If you read the aviation press, there have been some pretty good articles in recent issues of Combat Airpower about the Chinese air force. In short, the aviation geeks are not impressed. The Chinese have bought a fair amount of new equipment, but they are also wedded to a lot of old and inferior equipment as well. And their flight hours are awful, averaging something like 40-60 per year. In other words, their pilots are getting in an average of about one hour of flight time a week. As far as the Chinese navy is concerned, people make a big deal out of their purchase of some modern Russian destroyers. But how many did they actually buy? Four? It's not a lot. One would think from the hyperbole that they now have a massive navy. They don't. It's not much bigger than it was ten years ago. D Check on their recent submarine acquisitions, diesel and nuclear. Ricardo -- "Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..." |
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"Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: Like it or not China is, today, a "player" on the world stage. They have not not been expansionistec, externally, since about the 12th Century. Except for the Spratleys, which are roughly equidistant from Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia, but a LONG way from China. Perhaps because it's called the South China Sea they think that everything in it belongs to them? Aren't the Spratleys sitting on top of some nice oil reserves? Glenn D. |
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Glenn Dowdy wrote:
"Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: Like it or not China is, today, a "player" on the world stage. They have not not been expansionistec, externally, since about the 12th Century. Except for the Spratleys, which are roughly equidistant from Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia, but a LONG way from China. Perhaps because it's called the South China Sea they think that everything in it belongs to them? Aren't the Spratleys sitting on top of some nice oil reserves? Glenn D. Oh, dear, not another WMD and the need to remove an evil leader situation coming up! (All in the interests of spreading "democracy and freedom", of course, albeit at the point of a gun!) Ricardo -- "Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..." |
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In article , Ricardo wrote: Check on their recent submarine acquisitions, diesel and nuclear. Uh huh. How many? Two? Three? D |
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DDAY wrote:
---------- In article , Ricardo wrote: Check on their recent submarine acquisitions, diesel and nuclear. Uh huh. How many? Two? Three? D http://www.heritage.org/Research/Asi...fic/wm1001.cfm http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3134-8152r.htm Have a look - and think about it! Ricardo -- "Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..." |
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In article , "Glenn Dowdy"
wrote: "Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: Like it or not China is, today, a "player" on the world stage. They have not not been expansionistec, externally, since about the 12th Century. Except for the Spratleys, which are roughly equidistant from Philippines, Vietnam, and Indonesia, but a LONG way from China. Perhaps because it's called the South China Sea they think that everything in it belongs to them? Aren't the Spratleys sitting on top of some nice oil reserves? Yes. And certain nearby countries have a much more valid claim on it than China. I think the Philippines probably need it more in many ways than Big Red. -- Harry Andreas Engineering raconteur |
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