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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD,Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
Dan wrote:
Chuck wrote: Where do these imbeciles come from? OK, here goes: a boy imbecile meets a girl imbecile... Still obsessed with with little girls and little boys, eh Dan? Cheers ==bob Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
On Nov 18, 3:49 pm, "Chuck" wrote: Where do these imbeciles come from? "AmerGovtPsychopathsExposer" wrote in s.com... Although childish, there is a point. As alluded to in part of this original post, some high school student made comments about President Bush deserving to be dead (or some such) on her MySpace site and then got hauled out of class by a couple of Secret Service agents and given a good scare for doing so. Were her comments childish? Yes. Did they warrant a heavy handed visit? No. This posting (the original) is just some clown baiting the ECHELON system. |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
Jonny wrote: On Nov 18, 3:49 pm, "Chuck" wrote: Where do these imbeciles come from? "AmerGovtPsychopathsExposer" wrote in s.com... Although childish, there is a point. As alluded to in part of this original post, some high school student made comments about President Bush deserving to be dead (or some such) on her MySpace site and then got hauled out of class by a couple of Secret Service agents and given a good scare for doing so. Were her comments childish? Yes. Did they warrant a heavy handed visit? No. SNIP And you know this how? Let me ask you this, how old was Squeaky Fromm when she shot President Ford? Given the number of "incidents" in US schools with firerams and other weapons, not taking someone issuing threats to the president somewhat seriously just on the basis of their age would not seem to be wise. ILike everying else, it's a matter of judgment as to how seriously to take it and what to do about it. Seems to me that we're getting half the story with a lot of "look at the big bad FBI overreacting" spin on it. I'm willing to bet that there's more trhat neither side want to talk about...from the FBI's prespective, trying to keep quiet about "sources and methods" used to determine what the reaction should be. This posting (the original) is just some clown baiting the ECHELON system. |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
And you know this how? Let me ask you this, how old was Squeaky Fromm when she shot President Ford? Given the number of "incidents" in US schools with firerams and other weapons, not taking someone issuing threats to the president somewhat Lynette Fromm was 26 or 27 at the time, long out of grade school. Perhaps the agents were looking for a threat they could actually handle with this young child. Doonsbury had a valid point about the smirking chimp today. |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
On Nov 20, 12:46 am, " wrote: And you know this how? Widely reported on the international press wires. Given the number of "incidents" in US schools with firerams and other weapons, Stupid gun laws are another issue, as is the social problems that cause a kid to go 'postal'. not taking someone issuing threats to the president somewhat seriously just on the basis of their age would not seem to be wise. ILike everying else, it's a matter of judgment as to how seriously to take it and what to do about it. Investigate - Yes, a good idea. Drag 15 year old out of class, interrogate without lawyer or parent present, threaten with outcomes beyond those legally available - No, not a good idea. Seems to me that we're getting half the story with a lot of "look at the big bad FBI overreacting" spin on it. The Secret Service are not the FBI, but the point is once they have done a basic investigation they would have know that they didn't need to swash this particular bug with a sledge hammer. Just turning up and telling the girl what the law on making threats is would be enough to have most kids needing clean jocks. I'm not saying I like what the girl did (and others have done), but I'm saying the response is not appropriate. I'm a highschool teacher and you can bet your ass that I would not be letting any law enforcement official take a kid from my class unless it was done properly (ie adult like a teacher, parent or lawyer present). I'm willing to bet that there's more trhat neither side want to talk about...from the FBI's prespective, trying to keep quiet about "sources and methods" used to determine what the reaction should be. Remember, these are the same people (or at least the head people are) who told us that there were WMD in Iraq, told us Saddam Hussein supported Al'Qaeda, tell us they are not torturing anyone, and seem convinced that the detention camp at Gitmo is some how legal. Talk about lying to your own people and wiping your butt on the constitution! You are so big on your rights and freedoms? Stand up for them then! Oh, wait...You just did in the recent elections. Good for you. This posting (the original) is just some clown baiting the ECHELON system. Not a big secret if you know anything about SIGINT |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
"Richard Riley" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 15:44:17 GMT, "Daniel" wrote: So, if the secret service is informed of a posted threat against a President, they shouldn't go find out if a teenager posted it? They should ignore it and just assume it was a child? Or is it that a threat should only be investigated if the originator includes his age in the threat? I don't think that even reading between the lines I suggested half of what you suggest. I think whole affair of asking and answering your own question has been done to death by Rummy far better than you. In any case the agents did find out who was behind the "threat" to the smirking chimp could have handled it in a much more appropriate fashion. BTW, Gavrilo Princip was 19 when he killed Archduke Ferdinand and started WW1. |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
I'm curious, was the teenagers name Mohamad? |
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RUTHLESSLY KILL TERRORIST PSYCHOPATHS BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, Robert Mueller, Keith Alexander, Mathew Hayden and John Negroponte
On Nov 20, 10:30 am, "Lou" wrote: I'm curious, was the teenagers name Mohamad? Can't recall the name, but she was a caucasian punk-rock, EMO type. Presumably from a Christian family, probably rebelling against that too. ; ) The 'machinery' just picked up on the keywords and phrases on her blog and raised a flag for agents to check out. It's just how that checking was done that bothers me. |
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