Ventus rigging advice, please?

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 5:00:05 AM UTC-4, John McLaughlin wrote:
I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a lot
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't see

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bit
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn't
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?

Having read the entire string of postings I am surprised to see that nowhere is lubrication mentioned. All the tips are great, but a little grease goes a long way in taking a little of the hassle out of rigging S-H sailplanes.

A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 5:00:05 AM UTC-4, John McLaughlin wrote:
I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a lot
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't see

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bit
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn't
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?

Having read the entire string of postings I am surprised to see that nowhere is lubrication mentioned. All the tips are great, but a little grease goes a long way in taking a little of the hassle out of rigging S-H sailplanes.

Cleaning and greasing is always recommended (and I assume he already did this), but no amount of grease can overcome misalignment. And if the glider can be assembled with wings misaligned, the fittings are shot.

Tom

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:47:38 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

+1 for my Ventus B. I spent a year or two trying to figure out why, with all things to the best of my knowledge the same, sometimes the wings would protest and sometimes not. Fresh lube each rigging has provided the answer.

See this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em7MtTdx_Uo

Note: align vertical to be vertical
right wing first

and.....don't expect it to be that easy.....
Dan

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 5:00:05 AM UTC-4, John McLaughlin wrote:
I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a lot
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't see

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bit
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn't
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?

On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 9:09:19 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:47:38 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

+1 for my Ventus B. I spent a year or two trying to figure out why, with all things to the best of my knowledge the same, sometimes the wings would protest and sometimes not. Fresh lube each rigging has provided the answer.

....and you simultaneously figured out how to align the wings to the fuse. Don't believe me? Misalign the wings and see if they still go on. Alignment is the key (I have had no problem assembling gliders w/o ANY lube)...

On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 10:50:16 AM UTC-7, wrote:
See this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em7MtTdx_Uo

Note: align vertical to be vertical
right wing first

and.....don't expect it to be that easy.....
Dan

On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 5:00:05 AM UTC-4, John McLaughlin wrote:
I've recently started flying a Ventus2. I can't rig the thing without a lot
of
struggle. The trouble is, there's a cover above the spars and you can't see

anything once the first wing is in.

I struggle to get the second wing to fit, never knowing whether it's a bit
too
high or a bit too low. The ground is uneven and sloping, which doesn't
help.

I hope some Ventus owners can give me some tips, please?

I own an IMI electric rigger and it is clearly the best one-man rigger out there. It isn't cheap, but it is well-built. My only advice is to get a spare battery. Somehow my power switch got turned/left on and the battery was totally flat when I wanted to rig. I had to add FASTON connectors to make a battery change quick.

Tom

On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 9:09:19 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:47:38 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

+1 for my Ventus B. I spent a year or two trying to figure out why, with all things to the best of my knowledge the same, sometimes the wings would protest and sometimes not. Fresh lube each rigging has provided the answer.

...and you simultaneously figured out how to align the wings to the fuse. Don't believe me? Misalign the wings and see if they still go on. Alignment is the key (I have had no problem assembling gliders w/o ANY lube)...


Nope. Rather, I'm sure it is that you mistakenly attribute your success in rigging to alignment rather than that you're now properly lubing (see how useless a comment like that is? We could go back and forth forever...)

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 8:30:55 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 9:09:19 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:47:38 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

+1 for my Ventus B. I spent a year or two trying to figure out why, with all things to the best of my knowledge the same, sometimes the wings would protest and sometimes not. Fresh lube each rigging has provided the answer.

...and you simultaneously figured out how to align the wings to the fuse. Don't believe me? Misalign the wings and see if they still go on. Alignment is the key (I have had no problem assembling gliders w/o ANY lube)...


Nope. Rather, I'm sure it is that you mistakenly attribute your success in rigging to alignment rather than that you're now properly lubing (see how useless a comment like that is? We could go back and forth forever...)

Bottom line: I have rigged plenty of gliders WITHOUT any lubing WHATSOEVER. Period.

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:43:03 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 8:30:55 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 at 9:09:19 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:47:38 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
A clean set of pins and some lube goes a long way in rigging......period......

+1 for my Ventus B. I spent a year or two trying to figure out why, with all things to the best of my knowledge the same, sometimes the wings would protest and sometimes not. Fresh lube each rigging has provided the answer.

...and you simultaneously figured out how to align the wings to the fuse. Don't believe me? Misalign the wings and see if they still go on. Alignment is the key (I have had no problem assembling gliders w/o ANY lube)...


Nope. Rather, I'm sure it is that you mistakenly attribute your success in rigging to alignment rather than that you're now properly lubing (see how useless a comment like that is? We could go back and forth forever...)

Bottom line: I have rigged plenty of gliders WITHOUT any lubing WHATSOEVER. Period.

Somehow Tom, this must be a metaphor for your life.