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Allied Air launched rockets of ww2
Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. |
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Prowlus wrote:
Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. It may have to do with the fact that shooting down a 550+ mph jet fighter with unguided, relatively slow (~ Mach 1), short-range rockets is much harder than doing it with a stream of bullets. In Korea, bullets were good enough to bring down quite a lot of fast jets! Andreas |
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"Prowlus" wrote in message om... Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Prowlus" wrote in message om... Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Prowlus wrote: Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. The VVS was using air-air rockets against the Japanese over Manchuria in 1938 or so. They made quite extensive use of them in the early part of the war against Germany (before giving them up as ineffective, iSTR). Compared with the allies (well, the Russians) the germans were very slow in trying air-to-air rockets. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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The Germans did use rockets against Allied bombers. They put launch tubes in
the wings of FW-190s with the tubes set at about an 80 degree angle to the wing cord. The idea was to fly under a bomber and fire the rockets into it's underbelly. You could detonate the bomb load, destroy the bomber, and have the whole mess falling on you quicker than it even takes to describe. WDA end "Prowlus" wrote in message om... Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ... "Prowlus" wrote in message om... Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =-- Of course the UK had ground based rocket AA defense systems. Not sure how effective they were ! but to see and hear them was pretty impressive :-)) BMC |
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In article , Glenfiddich
writes On 1 Jun 2004 06:23:49 -0700, (Prowlus) wrote: Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack with guns. Did any of those WW2 aircraft rockets have any sort of guidance and homing? Since a direct hit on a fast-mover by an unguided rocket was and still is VERY unlikely, the next question that comes to mind is whether WW2 era air-to-ground rockets had proximity fuses and fragmentation (or better) warheads. The air-ground rockets used by the Typhoon, Beaufighter, Mosquito, and even the Swordfish, had a selection of warheads: 60 pound high explosive shaped-charge for armoured land targets, and solid 25 pound armour piercing for use against submarines (if these punched a hole in the hull the U-boat crew could never get to the site of the hole to fix it so the sub slowly sank). There was also a concrete one for practice. Being air-ground they did not have proximity fuses, but interestingly, post-war, the air-ground rocket was used in trials to build air-air missiles. A heat detector was installed in an instruments package in the nose and it was fired up a ramp towards a hot target mounted on a tower. When the rocket passed the target it set off a flash bulb to show the precise moment it had detected the hot spot. That was the easy bit - finding an optical filter that would detect the target and ignore the Sun took some time. There were also ground-based detectors that were tested against low-flying Mosquitos to see if they could detect the heat from the engine exhausts (they did). I saw some interesting footage of the experiments some years ago. Without those features, their battle effectiveness would have been, at most, the psychological effect of near-misses. 'It is the most exhilarating thing in the world to be shot at - without result.' W S Churchill. Cheers, Dave -- Dave Eadsforth |
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