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GOP Kills $100 million relief to GA companies hurt by 9/11 airspace restrictions



 
 
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Old January 29th 04, 10:58 AM
Larry Dighera
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Default GOP Kills $100 million relief to GA companies hurt by 9/11 airspace restrictions


The GOP reveals its priorities; vote accordingly.


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AVflash Volume 10, Number 05b -- January 29, 2004
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GA'S $100 MILLION BILL UP IN SMOKE...
A $100 million provision for relief to GA companies hurt by the
airspace restrictions following 9/11, in keeping with the fate of all
other such efforts so far in Washington, has failed to make the final
cut in the 2004 Omnibus Appropriations Bill. As late as last week, the
provision was still intact, but it had vanished by last Thursday, when
the Senate passed the bill, putting an abrupt end to efforts by
Democrats to keep it in play. President Bush signed the bill into law
on Friday. Pete West, of the National Business Aviation Association
(NBAA), told AVweb this week, "The classic line in this town is this:
Now we have to work on the '05 appropriations process." In other
words, there's always next year.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186597

....LOST IN LARGER PROBLEMS
Although the FAA's $60 billion reauthorization bill stretches over
four years, GA advocates don't have to wait four years to take their
next shot, West said. The spending bills still need to be voted on
every year. "Appropriations is an annual process, and we can work for
GA relief in fiscal year 2005," he told AVweb. Talks should begin soon
in Washington about spending in 2005, he said, but it's a long, slow
road. "The reality is, these GA companies have been hurting since
September 2001, and we need to stop the bleeding now," he said. But
with a war and a deficit and domestic demands on the budget, not to
mention an election, that is easier said than done.

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Old January 29th 04, 03:05 PM
C J Campbell
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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A crummy $100 million -- and it really was just a bunch of loans. Big deal.
If the other party comes up with something else maybe then we will have
something to talk about.

Until then, it is just talk.

Since so many businesses have gone under in the wake of 9/11 it would be
real interesting to see how these loans were going to be allocated. I bet
you can't even find a lot of the owners.


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Old January 29th 04, 03:46 PM
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Since so many businesses have gone under in the wake of 9/11 it would be
real interesting to see how these loans were going to be allocated. I bet
you can't even find a lot of the owners.


There are two salient questions to be asked:

1. How was the money to have been doled out?
2. What the hell is the Federal Gubmint doing giving away our taxes to a
bunch of private businesses?

Of course, I'd have rather seen it spent on GA than on our new $50 million
dollar rain forest (that, by the way, is going to cost $350 million before
it's "done") -- but neither project is something the Feds should be doing.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| The GOP reveals its priorities; vote accordingly.


Until then, it is just talk.





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Old January 29th 04, 04:18 PM
R.Hubbell
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:58:49 GMT Larry Dighera wrote:


The GOP reveals its priorities; vote accordingly.



Don't forget Bush has signed yet another spending bill.
To the tune of $328 billion. So yeah the priorities are further
revealed. Here's who will pay for all that spending.

http://anon.moveon.speedera.net/mov/1911_lg.swf

There is no free $100 hamburger. Keep working your tail off
everyone.


R. Hubbell



-------------------------------------------------------------------
AVflash Volume 10, Number 05b -- January 29, 2004
-------------------------------------------------------------------

GA'S $100 MILLION BILL UP IN SMOKE...
A $100 million provision for relief to GA companies hurt by the
airspace restrictions following 9/11, in keeping with the fate of all
other such efforts so far in Washington, has failed to make the final
cut in the 2004 Omnibus Appropriations Bill. As late as last week, the
provision was still intact, but it had vanished by last Thursday, when
the Senate passed the bill, putting an abrupt end to efforts by
Democrats to keep it in play. President Bush signed the bill into law
on Friday. Pete West, of the National Business Aviation Association
(NBAA), told AVweb this week, "The classic line in this town is this:
Now we have to work on the '05 appropriations process." In other
words, there's always next year.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186597

...LOST IN LARGER PROBLEMS
Although the FAA's $60 billion reauthorization bill stretches over
four years, GA advocates don't have to wait four years to take their
next shot, West said. The spending bills still need to be voted on
every year. "Appropriations is an annual process, and we can work for
GA relief in fiscal year 2005," he told AVweb. Talks should begin soon
in Washington about spending in 2005, he said, but it's a long, slow
road. "The reality is, these GA companies have been hurting since
September 2001, and we need to stop the bleeding now," he said. But
with a war and a deficit and domestic demands on the budget, not to
mention an election, that is easier said than done.

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Old January 29th 04, 04:32 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"R.Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:58:49 GMT Larry Dighera wrote:


The GOP reveals its priorities; vote accordingly.



Don't forget Bush has signed yet another spending bill.
To the tune of $328 billion. So yeah the priorities are further
revealed. Here's who will pay for all that spending.

http://anon.moveon.speedera.net/mov/1911_lg.swf


Powerful message, thanks.

Mike
MU-2


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Old January 29th 04, 05:18 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
2. What the hell is the Federal Gubmint doing giving away our taxes to a
bunch of private businesses?


I think the majority of this money is supposed to be used for GA
businesses effected by all the TFRs. Just imagine if tomorrow, the feds
shut down the airspace over Iowa City Airport (and for the sake of
argument, shut down all the roads leading up to the hotel). This would
effectively put you out of business. Wouldn't you want some sort of
compensation from the Feds?

--- Jay



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Old January 29th 04, 06:45 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:CV9Sb.179927$xy6.857718@attbi_s02...
2. What the hell is the Federal Gubmint doing giving away our taxes to a
bunch of private businesses?


A very good question, IMHO. However, given that billions went to the
airlines almost instantly (by government standards) after the 9/11 attacks,
in spite of their (partial) culpability and in spite of the fact that many
were already losing money due to factors completely unrelated to 9/11, do
you really think it's fair that businesses put out of business BY the
federal government should not be awarded some sort of aid or compensation by
the very entity that shut them down in the first place?

I mean, hell...the airlines lost almost NO money due to government actions.
GA's losses from 9/11 were almost ENTIRELY due to government actions. And
yet, who is it that the government bails out?

I dislike government bail-outs of businesses as much as the next guy, but
seems to me that this is an exception to the rule. The government is at
fault, the government should pay up. They shouldn't even be loans, IMHO.
They should be plain old restitution.

Pete


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Old January 29th 04, 08:55 PM
Jay Honeck
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I think the majority of this money is supposed to be used for GA
businesses effected by all the TFRs.


Good point. Has anyone actually compiled a list of FBOs impacted by the
TFRs?

I can't think of any outside of the D.C. area, and around the newly enlarged
Camp David TFR -- but surely there must me more to justify $100 million?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old January 29th 04, 09:57 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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A bunch around the NY area were negatively impacted also.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:rreSb.183252$na.300560@attbi_s04...
I think the majority of this money is supposed to be used for GA
businesses effected by all the TFRs.


Good point. Has anyone actually compiled a list of FBOs impacted by the
TFRs?

I can't think of any outside of the D.C. area, and around the newly

enlarged
Camp David TFR -- but surely there must me more to justify $100 million?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old January 29th 04, 10:07 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message et...
A bunch around the NY area were negatively impacted also.

And Crawford, TX.

And just about everybody inside the "Enhanced class B" for a while.

Frankly, I was denied use of my leased property at VKX for over six
months. They owe me at least $500.

 




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