An interesting trial flight attempt...

.... with a better result than a previous recent thread ;-)

Some notes about this:

Average flights to this point in 2005: time 3:03 and
distance 149 miles. I know that seems short but it
includes things like BFR/rope-break practice and
some demo rides.

This business about 12 volts vs 14 volts is silly;
real pilots know 280 volts is best.

Flame shields up.

http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares_2005.html

Come say hi at the SSA convention !
Best Regards, Dave "YO"

wrote:

... with a better result than a previous recent thread ;-)

Some notes about this:

Average flights to this point in 2005: time 3:03 and
distance 149 miles. I know that seems short but it
includes things like BFR/rope-break practice and
some demo rides.

This business about 12 volts vs 14 volts is silly;
real pilots know 280 volts is best.

Flame shields up.

http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares_2005.html

Very macho wing dolly, scarey big electric connectors, and now I know
why you sold the Ventus!

I agree - I think 18 meter would be preferable for most of my flying
(no, don't send me an order blank yet!).


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Eric Greenwell
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www.motorglider.org

Eric Greenwell wrote:
wrote:

... with a better result than a previous recent thread ;-)

Some notes about this:

Average flights to this point in 2005: time 3:03 and
distance 149 miles. I know that seems short but it
includes things like BFR/rope-break practice and
some demo rides.

This business about 12 volts vs 14 volts is silly;
real pilots know 280 volts is best.

Flame shields up.

http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares_2005.html

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scarey big electric connectors,

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Is there a system to insure the wires and connectors are cold when
they're not hooked up. A sore back from rigging is a sufficient risk,
but electrocution?!
:-)

Shawn
Note to self: Buy Lotto ticket

If you try the 20-meter ship you might not be able to go back.
You can pick up your order form at the convention !
See ya, Dave

PS: The Ventus 2cm is still available !

No risk of sore back with the nice riging gadget.
I don't think its more risky than plugging in your komputer.
Good luck on your lotto ticket !
See ya, Dave

Dave, you luck sack!

Nevertheless - thank you for a really great report. I was based at
Ramstein for a few years in the Air Force (even did a little local
gliding) and remember the area fondly. By the way, Zweibreuken used to
be a USAFE RF-4 base, long long ago...

Say, since FLARM isn't allowed to us barbarian Yankees and Canucks, how
about some sort of transponder detector (like a Surecheck) integrated
into the SN10 display - with a nice audio cue! Just wishing....

Kirk
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66 -- why isn't FLARM use allowed in the US?

It uses some cel phone frequencies, among other things.

IMO, it's just too simple a system for the FAA to ever consider
adopting.

Just think how cool it would be if all aircraft carried one:
Fewer collisions at uncontrolled airports.
Less need for Xponders on VFR aircraf flying near congested IFR type
airspace, we'd see the airliner coming - and they would see us.
Etc...

If FLARM can really not give too many false positives in gaggles, just
think how well it would work in the above situations.

-Tom

5Z wrote:
It uses some cel phone frequencies, among other things.

FLARM would need to operate on a slightly different frequency in the US,
but the main reason it can't be used here is that the FLARM people are
scared of our liability laws, and their licensing agreement explicitly
prohibit use in the US or in aircraft carrying US citizens.

IMO, it's just too simple a system for the FAA to ever consider
adopting.

Tis true, but it is also too simple a system for the ICAO to adopt.

Just think how cool it would be if all aircraft carried one:
Fewer collisions at uncontrolled airports.
Less need for Xponders on VFR aircraf flying near congested IFR type
airspace, we'd see the airliner coming - and they would see us.
Etc...

That would be called "ADS-B" not "FLARM".

If FLARM can really not give too many false positives in gaggles, just
think how well it would work in the above situations.

FLARM is just too simple to be useful with aircraft flying more than a
couple of hundred knots, nor does it integrate into the air traffic
control system. There are always tradeoffs...

Marc

Screw the FAA, and lawyers. Useless waste of carbon, most of the time.

How about some smart person come up with a FLARM clone that will work
in the US (i.e. suitable frequencies), and would intergrate with the
FLARM display or software like MCU and SN10 that already support it.

Make it portable so we can hide it from the feds. Keep it small and
unobtrusive. Stick it behind the panel, hook it up to your PDA or
computer, and bug all your glider buddies to get one. I bet if it was
priced right a lot of XC and racers would get one. I know I would.

Safety is always about what you do, not what someone else behind a desk
does...

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