Missing flight plans

Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through
Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed
with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on
time).

In both cases I had to re-file over the radio.

I thought DUATS VFR flight plans were never available to FSS, they have
to open them blind.
-Robert

Paul kgyy wrote:
Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through
Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed
with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on
time).

In both cases I had to re-file over the radio.

They can activate or cancel them but cannot amend them.
Mike

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I thought DUATS VFR flight plans were never available to FSS, they have
to open them blind.
-Robert

Paul kgyy wrote:
Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through
Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed
with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on
time).

In both cases I had to re-file over the radio.

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:34:13 -0700, Paul kgyy wrote:

Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through
Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed
with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on
time).

In both cases I had to re-file over the radio.

I had a flight plan magically open on me. I had filed three flight plans,
one for each leg of my trip, and had opened and closed two of them. I
couldn't raise FSS on my return leg (flight plan #3) and so was not able
to open it. Shortly after landing I got a call on my cell phone asking if
I had made it to my destination and to inform me I had failed to close my
flight plan from the return trip home.

None of us understood how that happened but the guy on the other end
wasn't too worried about it.

Greg

You said that you couldn't raise FSS so I assume that you tried. FSS
probably heard your radio calls even though you never heard their response.
They may have opened your flight plan as a default - or maybe your initial
radio calls included the request.

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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK
"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:34:13 -0700, Paul kgyy wrote:

Twice in 2 days I've filed VFR flight plans only to have FSS unable to
find them when I called on radio after takeoff. One was filed through
Duats at 9PM for noon next day (and left at noon). The other was filed
with a briefer at Terre Haute at 10PM for 8AM next day (and left on
time).

In both cases I had to re-file over the radio.

I had a flight plan magically open on me. I had filed three flight plans,
one for each leg of my trip, and had opened and closed two of them. I
couldn't raise FSS on my return leg (flight plan #3) and so was not able
to open it. Shortly after landing I got a call on my cell phone asking if
I had made it to my destination and to inform me I had failed to close my
flight plan from the return trip home.

None of us understood how that happened but the guy on the other end
wasn't too worried about it.

Greg

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 00:35:09 +0000, Travis Marlatte wrote:

You said that you couldn't raise FSS so I assume that you tried. FSS
probably heard your radio calls even though you never heard their response.
They may have opened your flight plan as a default - or maybe your initial
radio calls included the request.

That's what the guy on the other end of the phone said. That seems pretty
odd to me.


Greg

On 8/2/06 7:03 PM, in article ,
"Greg Copeland" wrote:

I had a flight plan magically open on me. I had filed three flight plans,
one for each leg of my trip, and had opened and closed two of them. I
couldn't raise FSS on my return leg (flight plan #3) and so was not able
to open it. Shortly after landing I got a call on my cell phone asking if
I had made it to my destination and to inform me I had failed to close my
flight plan from the return trip home.

None of us understood how that happened but the guy on the other end
wasn't too worried about it.

Greg



Some time ago on a cross-country that took me near, not into, Chattanooga's
airspace, I notified them where I was as a courtesy. They gave me a code to
squawk. After I was well clear of their airspace, they told me to resume own
navigation. Fat, dumb and happy, I squawked 1200 and went on to land at my
home base. After I hanging out a bit, the airport manager came up to me and
chewed me out for not closing my flight plan. I guess Chattanooga opened one
for me.
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Some time ago on a cross-country that took me near, not into,
Chattanooga's
airspace, I notified them where I was as a courtesy. They gave me a code
to
squawk. After I was well clear of their airspace, they told me to resume
own
navigation. Fat, dumb and happy, I squawked 1200 and went on to land at my
home base. After I hanging out a bit, the airport manager came up to me
and
chewed me out for not closing my flight plan. I guess Chattanooga opened
one
for me.

You were on a cross-country without a flight plan?

Michelle S.

You were on a cross-country without a flight plan?

He was ?
Oh mi gawd, doesn't he know that will cause your engine to stall and
then you die !!!!

denny

"Denny" writes:

You were on a cross-country without a flight plan?

He was ?
Oh mi gawd, doesn't he know that will cause your engine to stall and
then you die !!!!

And after you die there will be an even *longer* delay before anyone
comes looking for your wreckage (assuming that you didn't have Following
and your ELT didn't function properly and no one was expecting to hear
from you).

Please, people, think of the aging GA fleet. If people go flying around
without flight plans we're going to lose a lot of parts that are
valuable to those of us flying old planes.

--kyler