"Photo of Kerry with Fonda enrages Vietnam veterans"

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:50:54 -0500, Bob McKellar wrote:

It's too bad they don't issue medals for hypocrisy, we'd all look like Audie
Murphy.

You mean I'd morph into a white person?

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

From: Yeff


On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:50:54 -0500, Bob McKellar wrote:

It's too bad they don't issue medals for hypocrisy, we'd all look like
Audie
Murphy.

You mean I'd morph into a white person?

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

Audie Murphy was white?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On 29 Feb 2004 14:29:45 GMT, B2431 wrote:

Audie Murphy was white?

Corrine Brown

"You all look alike to me."

/Corrine Brown

-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com

"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
...
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I got out early in 1971, having been commissioned in November 1968,
giving
me
just over 2 years active commissioned service.

I went to my new home and tried to forget about the Navy. I got one
letter from
some Navy somebody or other telling me to go to drills, but I ignored
it.

Well, then one trusts you won't be questioning Bush's record of drill
attendance...

Brooks

snip

I have consistently NOT criticized GWB with the inflated "AWOL, deserter"
rhetoric thrown around here and in the general press.

OK. Chalk you up as *not* being in the hypocrite parade. Too bad Kerry does
not share your views; his atacks on Bush for allegedly not attending drills
while he himself apparently never attended any are a bit tiresome.

Brooks

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The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:
###
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257
Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter
pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question
and was grounded. Nor do they back up the 2000 Bush campaign's
explanation that Bush did not take a flight physical because he was
living in Alabama and his personal doctor was in Houston. (Flight
physicals are administered by military physicians, and there were
flight physicians at the base in Alabama where Bush says he served.)
###
Driving that plane, high on cocaine, Dubya Bush you better watch your
speed (and altitude)

As a bonus, here is a bit about the Bush lie squad, AKA Ted Sampley
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2424667


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
"miso" wrote in message
om...

Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.

How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,

Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.

What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.

Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip

"miso" wrote in message
om...
The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:
###
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257
Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter
pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question
and was grounded.

The Texas ANG was transitioning to a new airplane and they were not going to
fly the airplane GW flew anymore. You are posting luney suppositions to ram
..

"miso" wrote in message
om...

The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:

Because his physical was out of date--big deal.

###
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257
Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter
pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question
and was grounded.

Because he was elsewhere when his flight schedule would have occured--one of
those drills he made up. As his fellow ANG pilot from the 111th has already
noted, that was no big deal.

Nor do they back up the 2000 Bush campaign's
explanation that Bush did not take a flight physical because he was
living in Alabama and his personal doctor was in Houston. (Flight
physicals are administered by military physicians, and there were
flight physicians at the base in Alabama where Bush says he served.)

Where he *did* serve, but not on flight duty. Big deal (again).

###
Driving that plane, high on cocaine, Dubya Bush you better watch your
speed (and altitude)

Specious BS from another rumor monger...

Voters did not care about this BS in 2000, and they are not going to give a
rat's ass about it this year either. Enjoy your next four years with the
same administration in place.

Anybody ever talk to you about top-posting?

Brooks

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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...
"miso" wrote in message
om...

Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.

How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,

Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and
have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when
it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when
you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the
base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are
included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.

What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those
duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.

Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then
went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that
whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his
satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip

One would think that if you lifetime goal was to fly, you would take
the damn physical and be qualified to fly. It isn't like he went into
the guard to avoid going to Vietnam. No, Bush went into the guard to
protect Texas from the Mexican Airforce and pursue a lifetime of
flying.

Record deficits, record unemployment, declining dollar. Uh yeah, the
voters want more of that good stuff. I'm looking forward to putting
some honest Americans in charge of the country, and saving the might
of the military for real enemies. One would hate to think that wounds
like this
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Fe...-2987S-053.jpg
were for nothing.



"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
"miso" wrote in message
om...

The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:

Because his physical was out of date--big deal.

###
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257
Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter
pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question
and was grounded.

Because he was elsewhere when his flight schedule would have occured--one of
those drills he made up. As his fellow ANG pilot from the 111th has already
noted, that was no big deal.

Nor do they back up the 2000 Bush campaign's
explanation that Bush did not take a flight physical because he was
living in Alabama and his personal doctor was in Houston. (Flight
physicals are administered by military physicians, and there were
flight physicians at the base in Alabama where Bush says he served.)

Where he *did* serve, but not on flight duty. Big deal (again).

###
Driving that plane, high on cocaine, Dubya Bush you better watch your
speed (and altitude)

Specious BS from another rumor monger...

Voters did not care about this BS in 2000, and they are not going to give a
rat's ass about it this year either. Enjoy your next four years with the
same administration in place.

Anybody ever talk to you about top-posting?

Brooks

snip



"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...
"miso" wrote in message
om...

Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.

How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,

Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and
have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when
it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when
you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the
base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are
included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.

What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those
duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.

Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then
went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that
whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his
satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip