WAAS and Garmin 430/530

I was all ready to order a (wildly popular) Garmin 530 upgrade but now I have read that these units are not WAAS capable and will need a motherboard upgrade whenever they develop a WAAS capability, since there are fundamental problems with the basic refresh rate - see this months Aviation Safety.

WAAS is very important, needless to say, since it increases the accuracy a lot, and it could save your life. Ironically, the lowly Garmin GPS 295 portable/handheld is WAAS enabled!

At this point, I predict sales of the Garmin 430/530 will deteriorate until they get WAAS.

I'm waiting.

DB

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:34:17 GMT, "DoodyButch"
wrote:

Ironically, the lowly Garmin GPS 295 portable/handheld is WAAS enabled!

But it is not IFR certified. The GNS 430/530 would not need a higher
refresh rate if they did not want them to be IFR certified.

I was all ready to order a (wildly popular) Garmin 530 upgrade but now I =
have read that these units are not WAAS capable and will need a =
motherboard upgrade whenever they develop a WAAS capability, since there =
are fundamental problems with the basic refresh rate - see this months =
Aviation Safety.
WAAS is very important, needless to say, since it increases the accuracy =
a lot, and it could save your life. Ironically, the lowly Garmin GPS =
295 portable/handheld is WAAS enabled!
At this point, I predict sales of the Garmin 430/530 will deteriorate =
until they get WAAS.
I'm waiting.

Just buy the UPSAT all in one, it has everything you want and need.
Much nicer interface, too.

the 295 (which I have right now) updates ALOT slower then the 430/530
GPS/COM's, plus its not IFR certified.
The 430/530's are IFR certified and can do alot more. I had put a 430 in
my cherokee 180 and loved it. Nice system. Right now I am considering it
for my new plane, WAAS is not something I need, but from what I
understand from talking to my avionics shop, all that is needed when the
WAAS updates come out is for you to take it to the shop and they will
update the software in it. No big deal, only takes a few minutes.
I dont see sales going down on the 430 or 530, they are really good
systems especially now since you can get the terrain data base for it.

DoodyButch wrote:

I was all ready to order a (wildly popular) Garmin 530 upgrade but now
I have read that these units are not WAAS capable and will need a
motherboard upgrade whenever they develop a WAAS capability, since
there are fundamental problems with the basic refresh rate - see this
months Aviation Safety.

WAAS is very important, needless to say, since it increases the
accuracy a lot, and it could save your life. Ironically, the lowly
Garmin GPS 295 portable/handheld is WAAS enabled!

At this point, I predict sales of the Garmin 430/530 will deteriorate
until they get WAAS.

I'm waiting.

DB

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:38 -0700, Jeff wrote:

Right now I am considering it
for my new plane, WAAS is not something I need, but from what I
understand from talking to my avionics shop, all that is needed when the
WAAS updates come out is for you to take it to the shop and they will
update the software in it. No big deal, only takes a few minutes.
I dont see sales going down on the 430 or 530, they are really good
systems especially now since you can get the terrain data base for it.

According to Garmin updating my dual GNS 430s for WAAS will cost $1500
per unit. They have to be removed and shipped to the factory.

Thats alot more then I was quoted from my avionics shop, they said 500$
and they updated the software.

ArtP wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:38 -0700, Jeff wrote:



Right now I am considering it
for my new plane, WAAS is not something I need, but from what I
understand from talking to my avionics shop, all that is needed when the
WAAS updates come out is for you to take it to the shop and they will
update the software in it. No big deal, only takes a few minutes.
I dont see sales going down on the 430 or 530, they are really good
systems especially now since you can get the terrain data base for it.



According to Garmin updating my dual GNS 430s for WAAS will cost $1500
per unit. They have to be removed and shipped to the factory.

Jeff wrote:
Thats alot more then I was quoted from my avionics shop, they said 500$
and they updated the software.

ArtP wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:38 -0700, Jeff wrote:



Right now I am considering it
for my new plane, WAAS is not something I need, but from what I
understand from talking to my avionics shop, all that is needed when the
WAAS updates come out is for you to take it to the shop and they will
update the software in it. No big deal, only takes a few minutes.
I dont see sales going down on the 430 or 530, they are really good
systems especially now since you can get the terrain data base for it.



According to Garmin updating my dual GNS 430s for WAAS will cost $1500
per unit. They have to be removed and shipped to the factory.


Correct. Check this press release from Garmin:
http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/aviation/060403.html

Dave

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"Dave Butler" wrote in message ...


Jeff wrote:
Thats alot more then I was quoted from my avionics shop, they said 500$
and they updated the software.


According to Garmin updating my dual GNS 430s for WAAS will cost $1500
per unit. They have to be removed and shipped to the factory.


Correct. Check this press release from Garmin:
http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/aviation/060403.html

The summary:

TAWS - $500
WAAS - $1500

ouch....so 1500$ for the upgrade and xxx to have an avionics person
remove it and send it in.
WAAS isnt that important to me, the terrain data base would be nice to
have tho.


Dave Butler wrote:



Jeff wrote:

Thats alot more then I was quoted from my avionics shop, they said
500$ and they updated the software.

ArtP wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:38 -0700, Jeff wrote:



Right now I am considering it for my new plane, WAAS is not
something I need, but from what I understand from talking to my
avionics shop, all that is needed when the WAAS updates come out is
for you to take it to the shop and they will update the software in
it. No big deal, only takes a few minutes.
I dont see sales going down on the 430 or 530, they are really
good systems especially now since you can get the terrain data base
for it.



According to Garmin updating my dual GNS 430s for WAAS will cost $1500
per unit. They have to be removed and shipped to the factory.



Correct. Check this press release from Garmin:
http://www.garmin.com/pressroom/aviation/060403.html

Dave

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"Jeff" wrote in message news:xAteb.44567$vj2.42107@fed1read06...
Thats alot more then I was quoted from my avionics shop, they said 500$
and they updated the software.

I talked to Garmin at Oshkosh. It will require sending the unit back. There is
a hardware change required. It's not just a software change.