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"Del Rawlins" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:53:06 -0600, "Gig Giacona" wrote: "Lou Parker" wrote in message Take a look at the Savannah, the numbers are impressive http://www.sky-rider.net/ That plane is such an obvious copy of the Zenith 701. I just don't understand why Chris Hienz doesn't sue them into oblivion. Why, so their respective lawyers can get rich? The reason why no one has filed a lawsuit in such a case, aside from Deldo's argument that lawyers shouldn't be allowed to make a living, is that an aircraft's unique looks are not proprietary. Its name might be but not its appearance. Remember how H-D tried like hell, but in vain, to get an exclusive on the sound of its engines? They needn't have worried. Every once in a while I see a bike looking to be a Harley but the cheap shape of the breather cover and the tenor farting of its engine always give it away as a piece of crap from the orient. |
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:53:06 -0600, "Gig Giacona"
wrote: "Lou Parker" wrote in message Take a look at the Savannah, the numbers are impressive http://www.sky-rider.net/ That plane is such an obvious copy of the Zenith 701. I just don't understand why Chris Hienz doesn't sue them into oblivion. Why, so their respective lawyers can get rich? ================================================== == Del Rawlins-- Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply |
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"Jean-Paul Roy" wrote in message m...
FWIW, my understanding is that Chris Heinz sold the rights to a Brazilian company that after experiencing some financial problems, sold those rights to ICP in Italia. I would really like to find out if there is truth to this. Where did you come across this info? Lou That plane is such an obvious copy of the Zenith 701. I just don't understand why Chris Hienz doesn't sue them into oblivion. |
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Thanks everybody for the input. I'm seriously looking at the Pegazair 100,
I't appears to have all the features that I'm looking for. I'll keep the group posted on my descision, and I guess details of when I commence my build. Again, thank you all for your input Mike Karsten Invercargill New Zealand |
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:38:20 +1300, "M."
wrote: Thanks everybody for the input. I'm seriously looking at the Pegazair 100, I't appears to have all the features that I'm looking for. I'll keep the group posted on my descision, and I guess details of when I commence my build. Again, thank you all for your input Mike Karsten Invercargill New Zealand The beauty of the peg (over the Zen 701) is the chrome moly fuselage, which means no "oil canning" and better surviveability and repairability in case of a "hard landing". With the automatic slats it is a bit faster on the same horsepower, and it is designed for a greater FWF weight (300 lb limit) so a "real" aircraft engine can be installed without making it into a single seater. I was seriously thinking 701 a few years back (with a Soob) but I found the soob was too heavy for my thinking on that plane - and the Peg was a "similar mission". |
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Before you decide, check out this site:
http://bearhawkpatrol.tripod.com/ Takes off in under 250' and has a useful load of around 1000 lbs. Plans build, tube and fabric with a aluminum wing. Uses 150 to 180 HP engine. Two seat, tandem. It's a smaller version of this: http://www.bearhawkaircraft.com/ Peter wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:38:20 +1300, "M." wrote: Thanks everybody for the input. I'm seriously looking at the Pegazair 100, I't appears to have all the features that I'm looking for. I'll keep the group posted on my descision, and I guess details of when I commence my build. Again, thank you all for your input Mike Karsten Invercargill New Zealand The beauty of the peg (over the Zen 701) is the chrome moly fuselage, which means no "oil canning" and better surviveability and repairability in case of a "hard landing". With the automatic slats it is a bit faster on the same horsepower, and it is designed for a greater FWF weight (300 lb limit) so a "real" aircraft engine can be installed without making it into a single seater. I was seriously thinking 701 a few years back (with a Soob) but I found the soob was too heavy for my thinking on that plane - and the Peg was a "similar mission". |
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I am currently building a STOL King. I have a web site at
http://www.blackhillsairsports.com/S...ng_Intro2.html |
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wrote in message oups.com... I am currently building a STOL King. I have a web site at http://www.blackhillsairsports.com/S...ng_Intro2.html Nice web content, but you really need to make your buttons labels bigger, and with a total change of colors. The contrast is terrible. Sorry. |
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I also bought the plans for the STOL King but haven't received them yet. Although the general specs on this aircraft are enough for me to want to build one I have tried to get more detailed information about this aircrafts performance by emailing Preceptor aircraft twice and they will not respond other than to say thank you for the email and that they will get back with me later. I tried calling but it takes me to an answering machine telling me to call back at 2 PM their time when I am not able to call. Doesn't matter, due to never trusting a salesman (no slam on them and kind of moot considering I already bought the plans) I prefer finding someone independent of them who has built this aircraft themselves to answer the questions anyway.
Their specs say this aircraft will take off in 50 feet but no mention of whether the aircraft is lightly loaded or at gross weight or even which engine is needed for this performance. How about stall speed? Their specs say 15 MPH, I assume that is with power on and full flaps, anyone know? Also, I found these numbers for the aircraft which differ by a large amount with what is currently on their web site: http://www.generalaviationnews.com/e...ature&-nothing Quote:
Preceptors web page for the STOL King: http://www.preceptoraircraft.com/STOL%20King.htm If anyone else is researching this I am putting links to all of the sites I can find about the STOL King and or Storch homebuilts plus a few others on a new yahoo group at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Extreme_STOL - there is no activity there but the links section of the group is full of lots of different homebuilt aircraft which will take off and land in 300 feet or less which is growing and may be helpful to others like myself who are deciding on which extreme STOL aircraft to build. I have tried to get the opinion of CPotter (post above) and although very friendly and helpful in every other way he is reluctant to guess on the performance figures I am looking for because his project isn't finished yet. Anyone know someone who has one flying right now and how to contact them ? Last edited by Christopher : May 25th 06 at 03:12 AM. |
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STOL Plans
Christopher wrote:
I also bought the plans for the STOL King but haven't received them yet. Although the general specs on this aircraft are enough for me to want to build one I have tried to get more detailed information about this aircrafts performance by emailing Preceptor aircraft twice and they will not respond other than to say thank you for the email and that they will get back with me later. Phone calls to their number only takes me to an answering machine telling me to call back at 2 PM. Doesn't matter, I prefer finding someone independent of them who has built this aircraft themselves to answer the questions anyway. You need to join Preceptorgroup on Yahoo. -- J Kimmel www.metalinnovations.com "Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow. |
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