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Instrument Checkride on May 17th
On Saturday my instructor and I flew to Stewart International in
Newburg, NY for a few approaches. The plan was to fly out and do the VOR -27 partial panel a couple of times, followed by an ILS. After that we planned to fly to 4N1, Greenwood Lake, before returning to CDW. Partial panel holding had been my one sticking point. We flew the entire trip from CDW to the Kingston VOR, about 40 miles, partial panel. After reaching Kingston I entered the procedure turn and flew the approach. After reaching the MAP and flying the missed, my instructor informed the controller that we would be flying to 4N1 instead of shooting any additional approaches. His comment to me was that I couldn't have done a better job and although I was exhausted, I was pleased. We flew to Greenwood Lake for a VOR approach there before heading back to CDW for a LOC approach to Rwy 22. Once we were back on the ground my instructor informed me that he wanted me to call the examiner and schedule the checkride, which I scheduled for May 17. Now I have to prepare for the oral, which I'm not really worried about since I think I have a good grasp on this stuff. Hopefully the 100 on the written will help. Now I just have to make sure I don't make too many mistakes on the practical so that I don't have to do it twice. Thanks everyone for all the support. Cecil: I'll be thinking about you as I prepare. Dave |
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David B. Cole wrote:
Once we were back on the ground my instructor informed me that he wanted me to call the examiner and schedule the checkride, which I scheduled for May 17. Very nice! Who'll be your examiner? Soon, we'll have figure out how to trade-off safety pilot. To do that, we need to be checked out in the same aircraft hint!. - Andrew |
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Cecil: I'll be thinking about you as I prepare.
Dave Be looking forward to your post-checkride success story! Thanks for the thoughts, man!!! -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - "David B. Cole" wrote in message m... On Saturday my instructor and I flew to Stewart International in Newburg, NY for a few approaches. The plan was to fly out and do the VOR -27 partial panel a couple of times, followed by an ILS. After that we planned to fly to 4N1, Greenwood Lake, before returning to CDW. Partial panel holding had been my one sticking point. We flew the entire trip from CDW to the Kingston VOR, about 40 miles, partial panel. After reaching Kingston I entered the procedure turn and flew the approach. After reaching the MAP and flying the missed, my instructor informed the controller that we would be flying to 4N1 instead of shooting any additional approaches. His comment to me was that I couldn't have done a better job and although I was exhausted, I was pleased. We flew to Greenwood Lake for a VOR approach there before heading back to CDW for a LOC approach to Rwy 22. Once we were back on the ground my instructor informed me that he wanted me to call the examiner and schedule the checkride, which I scheduled for May 17. Now I have to prepare for the oral, which I'm not really worried about since I think I have a good grasp on this stuff. Hopefully the 100 on the written will help. Now I just have to make sure I don't make too many mistakes on the practical so that I don't have to do it twice. Thanks everyone for all the support. Cecil: I'll be thinking about you as I prepare. Dave |
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a 100 on the written???
well.. the examiner knows no body is perfect.. so he's going try to find out what you don't know.. don't worry.. they always find something.. and it should be no big deal... just don't dig a hole and try to bluff your way out of something.. study up, take your reference library with you.. and you'll do fine.. BT "David B. Cole" wrote in message m... On Saturday my instructor and I flew to Stewart International in Newburg, NY for a few approaches. The plan was to fly out and do the VOR -27 partial panel a couple of times, followed by an ILS. After that we planned to fly to 4N1, Greenwood Lake, before returning to CDW. Partial panel holding had been my one sticking point. We flew the entire trip from CDW to the Kingston VOR, about 40 miles, partial panel. After reaching Kingston I entered the procedure turn and flew the approach. After reaching the MAP and flying the missed, my instructor informed the controller that we would be flying to 4N1 instead of shooting any additional approaches. His comment to me was that I couldn't have done a better job and although I was exhausted, I was pleased. We flew to Greenwood Lake for a VOR approach there before heading back to CDW for a LOC approach to Rwy 22. Once we were back on the ground my instructor informed me that he wanted me to call the examiner and schedule the checkride, which I scheduled for May 17. Now I have to prepare for the oral, which I'm not really worried about since I think I have a good grasp on this stuff. Hopefully the 100 on the written will help. Now I just have to make sure I don't make too many mistakes on the practical so that I don't have to do it twice. Thanks everyone for all the support. Cecil: I'll be thinking about you as I prepare. Dave |
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Andrew,
I'm taking the checkride with Marcus. Yeah, I guess this means that I will have to join the PFC. :-) Dave Andrew Gideon wrote in message gonline.com... David B. Cole wrote: Once we were back on the ground my instructor informed me that he wanted me to call the examiner and schedule the checkride, which I scheduled for May 17. Very nice! Who'll be your examiner? Soon, we'll have figure out how to trade-off safety pilot. To do that, we need to be checked out in the same aircraft hint!. - Andrew |
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On 5/5/04 9:13 PM, in article gjgmc.12049$k24.2313@fed1read01, "BTIZ"
wrote: a 100 on the written??? well.. the examiner knows no body is perfect.. so he's going try to find out what you don't know.. don't worry.. they always find something.. and it should be no big deal... just don't dig a hole and try to bluff your way out of something.. study up, take your reference library with you.. and you'll do fine.. BT I don't understand taking a reference library with you to a checkride. I'll be scheduling my IFR ride this month if I wasn't so busy. But when it does happen (in June), I'll only be taking the essentials and what's been planted in my brain up to that time. No FAR/AIM or anything of that sort. It wasn't needed during my private oral and I don't see the sense in the DE digging to the point that you have to feel like you need to drag along an encyclopedia. If you scored 100, there should be no question that you studied and are able to pass the oral easily. A few questions on each topic should be sufficient without the DE trying to find something, for God's sake, anything! just to show you that you don't know it all. -- Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino Cartoons with a Touch of Magic www.wizardofdraws.com www.cartoonclipart.com |
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well... lets see... you must take your oral's differently than we do,
FAR/AIM, POH, Aircraft Logs, Weather charts, and weather reference material. More than one DE has always asked the stumper question... just to see if you know how to look something up. BT "Wizard of Draws" wrote in message news:BCBF15CA.E112%jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraws .com... On 5/5/04 9:13 PM, in article gjgmc.12049$k24.2313@fed1read01, "BTIZ" wrote: a 100 on the written??? well.. the examiner knows no body is perfect.. so he's going try to find out what you don't know.. don't worry.. they always find something.. and it should be no big deal... just don't dig a hole and try to bluff your way out of something.. study up, take your reference library with you.. and you'll do fine.. BT I don't understand taking a reference library with you to a checkride. I'll be scheduling my IFR ride this month if I wasn't so busy. But when it does happen (in June), I'll only be taking the essentials and what's been planted in my brain up to that time. No FAR/AIM or anything of that sort. It wasn't needed during my private oral and I don't see the sense in the DE digging to the point that you have to feel like you need to drag along an encyclopedia. If you scored 100, there should be no question that you studied and are able to pass the oral easily. A few questions on each topic should be sufficient without the DE trying to find something, for God's sake, anything! just to show you that you don't know it all. -- Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino Cartoons with a Touch of Magic www.wizardofdraws.com www.cartoonclipart.com |
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I'll only be taking the essentials and what's been planted
in my brain up to that time. No FAR/AIM or anything of that sort. It wasn't needed during my private oral and I don't see the sense in the DE digging to the point that you have to feel like you need to drag along an encyclopedia. Make sure that you review the Practical Test Standards, in particular the Applicant's Practical Test Checklist. In the Instrument Rating PTS (http://av-info.faa.gov/data/practica...-s-8081-4d.pdf) this includes: ACCEPTABLE AIRCRAFT View-limiting device Aircraft Documents: Airworthiness Certificate Registration Certificate Rating Limitations Aircraft Maintenance Records: Airworthiness Inspections PERSONAL EQUIPMENT Current Aeronautical Charts Computer and Plotter Flight Plan Form Flight Logs **** Current AIM **** PERSONAL RECORDS Identification - Photo/Signature ID Pilot Certificate Medical Certificate Completed FAA Form 8710-1, Application for an Airman Certificate and/or Rating Airman Knowledge Test Report Logbook with Instructor's Endorsement Notice of Disapproval (if applicable) Approved School Graduation Certificate (if applicable) Examiner's Fee (if applicable) |
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On 5/5/04 10:11 PM, in article z9hmc.12056$k24.7196@fed1read01, "BTIZ"
wrote: well... lets see... you must take your oral's differently than we do, FAR/AIM, POH, Aircraft Logs, Weather charts, and weather reference material. More than one DE has always asked the stumper question... just to see if you know how to look something up. BT Probably a good deal of it is that my flight school has a very good idea of what the DE wants to see and what info he's likely to ask. 90% of my private oral seemed to come from the ASA prep book and the rest were questions that my instructor and I had prepped for. I fail to see the reasoning behind demonstrating my FAR/AIM research skills, as it pertains to my ability to fly safely. I see that it is recommended to bring the book to the ride, but since I've had no need to crack open the thing in my last 4 years of flying, I don't see the point. I think a DE should test the real world, not abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. -- Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino Cartoons with a Touch of Magic www.wizardofdraws.com www.cartoonclipart.com |
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Assuming that you don't actually have every reg and recommended
procuedure memorized, you may find yourself one day encountering some sort of question about how to do something that you have long since forgotten, or never knew in the first place. The DE may want to make sure that if you encountered some strange notation on an approach chart, for example, you would be able to navigate your way through the FAR/AIM instead of posting a public opinion poll on a newsgroup. Bring the freakin' book - even if it is your 2000 edition from your private. As big as it is, it doesn't cost more than a few extra shoulder muscles to have it with you. Wizard of Draws wrote in news:BCC0447A.E18F%jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraws .com: On 5/5/04 10:11 PM, in article z9hmc.12056$k24.7196@fed1read01, "BTIZ" wrote: well... lets see... you must take your oral's differently than we do, FAR/AIM, POH, Aircraft Logs, Weather charts, and weather reference material. More than one DE has always asked the stumper question... just to see if you know how to look something up. BT Probably a good deal of it is that my flight school has a very good idea of what the DE wants to see and what info he's likely to ask. 90% of my private oral seemed to come from the ASA prep book and the rest were questions that my instructor and I had prepped for. I fail to see the reasoning behind demonstrating my FAR/AIM research skills, as it pertains to my ability to fly safely. I see that it is recommended to bring the book to the ride, but since I've had no need to crack open the thing in my last 4 years of flying, I don't see the point. I think a DE should test the real world, not abstract FAA mumbo jumbo. |
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