Which sport/acro biplane from plans?

A guy here who doesn't speak English asked me to investigate which aircraft
he should choose to build from plans.
What he wiches:

- single or 2-seat
- limited aerobatics
- engine M14P or Valter M332/337

I can also assume that he isn't the big-buck one. I know that this question
was discussed here some times earlier, but weold like to accumulate the
opinions.

Thanks in advance for any reliable comments and suggestions.

Fly fun!

Alex
http://twistairclub.narod.ru - Sport Rotorcraft of Russia

"Mr.Twistair" wrote in message
...
A guy here who doesn't speak English asked me to investigate which
aircraft
he should choose to build from plans.
What he wiches:

- single or 2-seat
- limited aerobatics
- engine M14P or Valter M332/337

I can also assume that he isn't the big-buck one. I know that this
question
was discussed here some times earlier, but weold like to accumulate the
opinions.

Thanks in advance for any reliable comments and suggestions.

Fly fun!

Alex
http://twistairclub.narod.ru - Sport Rotorcraft of Russia



Hatz Skybolt Marquart Charger Starduster Too Acroduster Smith
Miniplane Bowers Bipe Buddy Baby Lakes et cetera Oh, and you can build
a Pietenpol Bipe too.

Mr.Twistair wrote:
A guy here who doesn't speak English asked me to investigate which aircraft
he should choose to build from plans.
What he wiches:

- single or 2-seat
- limited aerobatics
- engine M14P or Valter M332/337snip

That's quite a horsepower range - M332 is 115 to 140, M337 is about 210,
M14P is up to 360.

A pair of planes that have always been interesting to me are the DR-107
One Design (single seat) and the DR-109 (two seat)
http://members.aol.com/danrihn/rac.htm. They are designed for opposed
cylinder engines, but perhaps they could be adapted to the Valter M337.

Culp Specialties http://www.culpsspecialties.com has several designs
built specifically around the M14P.

A design that might suit the Valter M332 engine is Warner Air's Space
Walker II & Revolution II http://www.warnerair.com/.

hope this helps,
--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

"David Hill" ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: ...

That's quite a horsepower range - M332 is 115 to 140, M337 is about 210,
M14P is up to 360.

Thanks, David, though the only biplane here is Culp (lovely aircraft anyway)
.

It may seem to be strange list of engines but the simple reason is that both
M14P and Walters are still available here for the reasonably low cash. It's
still available to find, say, never-run M332 or M337 for $3-4 K.

Cheers,

Alex

Culp Specialties http://www.culpsspecialties.com has several designs
built specifically around the M14P.

A design that might suit the Valter M332 engine is Warner Air's Space
Walker II & Revolution II http://www.warnerair.com/.

hope this helps,
--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

There's always the mother of all M14P powered airplanes:

http://www.pittsmodel12.com/

Rick

"Mr.Twistair" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: ...

That's quite a horsepower range - M332 is 115 to 140, M337 is about 210,
M14P is up to 360.

Thanks, David, though the only biplane here is Culp (lovely aircraft
anyway)
.

It may seem to be strange list of engines but the simple reason is that
both
M14P and Walters are still available here for the reasonably low cash.
It's
still available to find, say, never-run M332 or M337 for $3-4 K.

Cheers,

Alex

Culp Specialties http://www.culpsspecialties.com has several designs
built specifically around the M14P.

A design that might suit the Valter M332 engine is Warner Air's Space
Walker II & Revolution II http://www.warnerair.com/.

hope this helps,
--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

There's only 1 wing.

David Hill wrote in message
...
Mr.Twistair wrote:
A guy here who doesn't speak English asked me to investigate which
aircraft
he should choose to build from plans.
What he wiches:

- single or 2-seat
- limited aerobatics
- engine M14P or Valter M332/337snip

That's quite a horsepower range - M332 is 115 to 140, M337 is about 210,
M14P is up to 360.

A pair of planes that have always been interesting to me are the DR-107
One Design (single seat) and the DR-109 (two seat)
http://members.aol.com/danrihn/rac.htm. They are designed for opposed
cylinder engines, but perhaps they could be adapted to the Valter M337.

Culp Specialties http://www.culpsspecialties.com has several designs
built specifically around the M14P.

A design that might suit the Valter M332 engine is Warner Air's Space
Walker II & Revolution II http://www.warnerair.com/.

hope this helps,
--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

Mr.Twistair wrote:
"David Hill" ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: ...

That's quite a horsepower range - M332 is 115 to 140, M337 is about 210,
M14P is up to 360.


Thanks, David, though the only biplane here is Culp (lovely aircraft anyway)
.

Oops, sorry about that. I missed the word "biplane" in the subject. doh!

Revised suggestion list:

for the M332:
The Pietenpol Aerial from St Croix Aircraft is interesting looking,
should be inexpensive to build.

For the M337:
The Great Lakes Biplane 2T-1A from Great Lakes Plans Co looks like it
fits your criteria.


It may seem to be strange list of engines but the simple reason is that both
M14P and Walters are still available here for the reasonably low cash. It's
still available to find, say, never-run M332 or M337 for $3-4 K.

Really? Hmmmmm, I wonder how much shipping one to the US would cost?

--
David Hill
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

"David Hill" ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: ...


For the M337:
The Great Lakes Biplane 2T-1A from Great Lakes Plans Co looks like it
fits your criteria.

I feel it's what that guy is looking for, thanks. Failed to find who sells
the plans, still looking.



It may seem to be strange list of engines but the simple reason is that
both
M14P and Walters are still available here for the reasonably low cash.
It's
still available to find, say, never-run M332 or M337 for $3-4 K.

Really? Hmmmmm, I wonder how much shipping one to the US would cost?


I don't know exactly but it seems to be something around 6-7 bucks per 1 kg
gross weight if shipped to the other side of the Pond. I shipped abroad
something heavy only once and it was years ago, can define if interesting -
e-mail me.

Cheers,

Alex
http://twistairclub.narod.ru - Sport Rotorcraft of Russia

"Mr.Twistair" wrote in message
...

"David Hill" ???????/???????? ? ????????
?????????: ...


For the M337:
The Great Lakes Biplane 2T-1A from Great Lakes Plans Co looks like it
fits your criteria.

I feel it's what that guy is looking for, thanks. Failed to find who sells
the plans, still looking.


Back in the nineties Buecker Jungmaenner showed up at Lakeland. They were
built from plans and I remember meeting the plans designer, who is now
deceased. Big stocky man. Somebody stole the socks off his prop blades.
Beautiful aeroplane, er, Flugzeug, and wouldn't that M14-P look great on the
nose! You could call it Die Schmetterling, da?

David Hill wrote in message
For the M337:
The Great Lakes Biplane 2T-1A from Great Lakes Plans Co looks like it
fits your criteria.

Where would I find info on this one? Great Lakes Plans Co doesn't
Google for me.

I am currently leaning toward the Pitts 12 but don't really want that
high of a fuel burn rate.

Dave
N36078 '41 BC-12-65