My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:31:37 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Sounds good to me.

Me, too.

I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile

Rarely do I need one and even then I could leave a bit earlier. OTOH
what happens to all the cars?

(round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as
my next vehicle.

About that time most of your neighbors will do the same, there will be
no off peak times any more due to every one getting their batteries
charged at night, and we'll discover we don't have either the
electrical generating capacity from those smoky, coal burning plants,
nor the electrical grid capacity to deliver it.

Roger (K8RI)

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:16:34 +0000, Scott
wrote:

Oh...THAT's killer! You work for the same government that mandated O.T.
pay. Sometimes I just love the way our government works..."It's OK for


Only for the hourly folk. Us professionals are paid so much a month,
once a month. :-))

Roger (K8RI)

us to make rules to protect our citizens from getting screwed, but we're
going to screw our own employees." That figures! Thanks for
hanging in there and clarifying

Margy Natalie wrote:

Scott wrote:

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:39:16 -0400, Margy Natalie
wrote:

Scott wrote:
I think I'd rather have my office IN an SR-71

I was never a big fan of comp time...especially when the boss was the
one who decided which day he would give you as comp time

Scott

We luck out there. The boss doesn't decide the comp time although he

Officially we didn't have comp time and vacation was use it or lose
it, BUT they quietly made an exception for us computer folk. Most of
us would come wandering in around 10:00 AM and go home around 4:00 to
make up for it. If we worked Saturday and Sunday the odds were pretty
good we'd miss a couple of days within the next couple of weeks. The
plant manager's secretary sent me a nasty note explaining what
flexible hours were and I needed to change my ways. I gave the letter
to my boss and volunteered to work 8:00 to 4:30, but I might be hard
to find after hours. He told me to keep doing as I was and he'd
explain how many hours I really worked each week. Just make sure I was
there for any scheduled meetings. It didn't hurt that I was up the
food chain a ways, worked for corporate, and had offices at two
different plants. After 7 years I retired with them owing me for over
90 some days of vacation, and I had taken the last full week off to
spend at Oshkosh. That 90 plus days made a real nice retirement check.
I retired out on the flight line. :-))

has to approve it. I try to stack it up for a long weekend. He doesn't

We just worked as needed with no approval required .

Roger (K8RI)

really like it (says I'll burn out with some of the weeks I work), but
he approves it. Of course if I don't use it by the end of the calendar
year it turns to dust, and the office needs to be covered Xmas week, and
we all earn a bunch before and during major events in the fall ...

Margy

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
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Montblack wrote:
("Dan Luke" wrote)
At least you had feet. Our mom used ours to make soup. We had to
walk to school on the stumps!

That's it, cut him off! g


Montblack
At least you had soup, we had to graze on the lint on the floor.

You had a floor? A real, honest-to-god floor? You pansy!! :~0
In winter the mud froze and we had a solid floor.

We had a black hole that we had to jump over. We were unable to train the
dog to make the jump, and she's now in another dimension.

On 2007-10-15 10:01:25 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" said:

On Oct 13, 1:33 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:

If you are really worried about Global Warming you can buy carbon
offset credits from me. Please send cash.

-robert

Actually, I was going to buy a G-II, but I changed my mind. How many
carbon credits is that worth?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-15 19:20:09 -0700, Dan said:

Anthony W wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote:
Just buy a golf cart...

Those are a bit cold in winter around here...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA

And damp around here in NW Oregon.

Tony

OK, you bunch of whiners, when I was a child I had to walk 15 miles
to school in my bare feet in the sleet and snow, up hill.....both ways.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

True legend:

Sometime in the 14th century the Campbells were returning from a cattle
raid that had not gone very well, so they were making a rapid tactical
retreat across the snow. Finally, exhausted, they wrapped themselves in
their kilts and threw themselves down into the snow to take a needed
rest. The clan chief's son, however, rolled up a large snowball and put
it under his head. The chief came over and kicked the snowball away,
saying, "And are ye become so effeminate, lad, that ye need a pillow?"

That story has been handed down among Campbells for centuries, but
there is no way to verify it. Still, it seems plausible. Consider the
experience of a more recent ancestor:

My grandmother's grandmother, Sarah Urrinda Rawson, at the age of six
made the trek across the plains to Utah, walking the entire distance.
She wrote that she and her little brother were in charge of the cattle,
which frightened her sometimes when the cattle stampeded or when
Indians attacked trying to steal cattle. The children had no shoes, so
she got great cracks in her feet which she would sew up with her sewing
kit when they stopped for the night.

This was not the first time the children had had to migrate to a new
home without shoes. After their home was burned by mobs the first time
in Missouri, they had to flee in the dead of winter across the Missouri
River, taking shelter on a sand bar. There her mother, Elizabeth, and
Sarah Urrinda's baby brother, had to stay with nothing more to protect
them than a sheet hung between willows. The children's feet were
severely frostbitten.

Sarrah Urrinda's older brother, Daniel was probably still a little sore
from the ball he took in his knee at the battle of Clear Creek. He was
16 at the time. Later, when he was 19, he confronted an armed mob alone
and demanded that they at least partially pay for the house in Illinois
they had burned, the flocks and pigs they had stolen, and for the fence
they destroyed. They finally caved and gave him a side of bacon, a
cheese, and some eggs. Then they shot at him as he left for home.

Later, Daniel was making shakes for a barn and he and the others
decided to sleep at another barn that night. A mob set fire to the barn
and started shooting everybody that came out. Daniel's best friend was
shot to death as he stood next to him.

They stopped in Iowa to regroup and the Army came asking for volunteers
for a battalion of men to march against Mexico. Daniel swore that he
would never serve the American government, which had done nothing to
prevent these attacks by mobs or restore order. But he volunteered
anyway when Brigham Young asked him to. So they marched to Missouri for
supplies, but the supply depot was manned by the same people who had
chased them out of Missouri. The commander of the battalion finally
gave the Missourians an ultimatum that either they would deliver the
supplies within the day or he would open fire with his cannon. They
delivered.

They marched across to San Diego, building a road all the way from
Independence. Mustered out, they went to Yerba Buena (now San
Francisco), and on to Sacramento looking for work so they could earn
money to get back to Utah. They found it at Sutter's mill. Although
they discovered gold there, Daniel was asked to take the horses back to
Salt Lake City in the spring, which he did in a running battle with
Indians the whole way. He sometimes had to swim across icy rivers
towing a raft carrying the horses.

So, when I hear people mocking the "15 miles each way in our bare feet"
I think of those guys. They really lived like that.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Oct 15, 12:34 am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:

working from home. horrors, perish the thought.

The best thing about working from home, is you are at home when you
are at work.

The worst thing about working form home, is you are at work when you
are at home.

no cultural stimulation.

Only if you so desire.

bugger all new technology.

Only if you are a cheap bugger.

everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.

All the profits (and savings) you make, you get to keep for yourself.

On Oct 13, 4:33 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:

All of these problems can be traced to the rise of the superhighway. We
built it, and everybody moved out of town in an ever-increasing spiral
of flight to a chimera of utopian suburbia. The only people left in the
cities were a few of the very rich who understood city life and a lot
of the extremely poor and desperate. People forgot their responsibility
to their fellow man because their fellow man who needed help now lived
in that awful place fifty miles away. City parks were taken over by
drug users and prostitutes because they were the only ones left.
Schools, well, schools were simply abandoned to their fate.

The only reason people really live so far from where the work is
because of the freeway. They thought they would be happy out there, but
demonstrably they are not. So they keep moving further away, never
finding happiness, dragging the culture and amenities of the city
behind them. They wanted to live in quiet farmland, but they wanted
shopping like they had in the city, so they built huge shopping malls
and then complained that it was too much like the city and moved even
further away. They didn't like nosy people telling them how to live in
the city, so they moved to neighborhoods with restrictive covenants and
complained. It is madness.

Much of the only land available was near small town airports, so they
demanded that the airports be closed and developed into more suburbs or
golf courses. The trains were shut down as freight was transferred to
the new railroad of the freeways as trucks pulled entire chains of
trailers behind them across country.

It is time to reverse this trend! Vote no on new freeways! Vote no even
for maintenance! Elect people who will dynamite the freeways! Elect
incompetents who will allow the freeways to die of well-deserved
neglect! Here in Washington State we have been doing that for decades,
but only half-heartedly. Now is the time to finish the job!

When people realize that suburbia is not the answer, they will move
back to the cities where they will be happier and those who have to
live and work in the hinterland and remain behind will be happier.
Automobile usage will be cut by more than half, along with its
attendant use of petroleum.

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Right on! And, also oppose subsidies paid to GA airports by
commercial passengers and general taxpayers. Stop the subsidies!

On Oct 13, 4:33 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:

All of these problems can be traced to the rise of the superhighway. We
built it, and everybody moved out of town in an ever-increasing spiral
of flight to a chimera of utopian suburbia. The only people left in the
cities were a few of the very rich who understood city life and a lot
of the extremely poor and desperate. People forgot their responsibility
to their fellow man because their fellow man who needed help now lived
in that awful place fifty miles away. City parks were taken over by
drug users and prostitutes because they were the only ones left.
Schools, well, schools were simply abandoned to their fate.

The only reason people really live so far from where the work is
because of the freeway. They thought they would be happy out there, but
demonstrably they are not. So they keep moving further away, never
finding happiness, dragging the culture and amenities of the city
behind them. They wanted to live in quiet farmland, but they wanted
shopping like they had in the city, so they built huge shopping malls
and then complained that it was too much like the city and moved even
further away. They didn't like nosy people telling them how to live in
the city, so they moved to neighborhoods with restrictive covenants and
complained. It is madness.

Much of the only land available was near small town airports, so they
demanded that the airports be closed and developed into more suburbs or
golf courses. The trains were shut down as freight was transferred to
the new railroad of the freeways as trucks pulled entire chains of
trailers behind them across country.

It is time to reverse this trend! Vote no on new freeways! Vote no even
for maintenance! Elect people who will dynamite the freeways! Elect
incompetents who will allow the freeways to die of well-deserved
neglect! Here in Washington State we have been doing that for decades,
but only half-heartedly. Now is the time to finish the job!

When people realize that suburbia is not the answer, they will move
back to the cities where they will be happier and those who have to
live and work in the hinterland and remain behind will be happier.
Automobile usage will be cut by more than half, along with its
attendant use of petroleum.

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Right on! And, vote NO to the outrageous subsidization of General
Aviation airports by commercial passengers and general taxpayers.
Enough of the encroachment of GA airports into residential
neighborhoods, which were there well before any airport.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:17:48 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:

On 2007-10-15 10:01:25 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" said:

On Oct 13, 1:33 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:

If you are really worried about Global Warming you can buy carbon
offset credits from me. Please send cash.

-robert

Actually, I was going to buy a G-II, but I changed my mind. How many
carbon credits is that worth?

Only about a quarter or what it would have been had you not purchased
a G-III with the much larger engine.

I was going to purchase two new SUVs, a Hummer, and one of those big
Chrysler pickups with the V-10...but I didn't. That should be enough
credits you can go out and buy two new airplanes. it also saved me a
lot of money I didn't have which should make my wife happy.


Roger (K8RI)