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Stop me, before I do something crazy...
"Dan Luke" wrote:
My gawd, that panel looks awful; like a ride at a theme park. Thats why you want to see lots of pictures (hires) before making the drive/flight to see it for real... Smart guy doesn't paint it, doesn't do several things, before selling it and let the buyer choose the details... Looks pretty well equipped and useable to me, though some insulation on the side panels might make the ride a bit quieter... At the prices the completed RV10's are commanding, you can get a very nice certified airplane... I'm not really serious about buying a homebuilt. Who would work on it? Buy a tail kit, build it, have it inspected and then sell it. Doesn't that get most people qualified for doing their own annuals on a like experimental? How much confidence could I have in avionics support for these non-cert boxes? Was that handheld satellite weather/gps gizmo of yours certified? ;-) The Dynon's are nice, I like the pricing of the Stratomaster Enigma better... http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Enigmapage.html |
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"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message . 18... "Dan Luke" wrote: My gawd, that panel looks awful; like a ride at a theme park. Thats why you want to see lots of pictures (hires) before making the drive/flight to see it for real... Smart guy doesn't paint it, doesn't do several things, before selling it and let the buyer choose the details... Looks pretty well equipped and useable to me, though some insulation on the side panels might make the ride a bit quieter... At the prices the completed RV10's are commanding, you can get a very nice certified airplane... I'm not really serious about buying a homebuilt. Who would work on it? Anyone can work on it. You, your kid, your Border Collie, whoever. The only log entry that needs to be entered by someone with credentials is the "Condition Inspection", which is equivalent to the Annual Inspection on certified birds. The Condition Inspection can be signed off by an A&P, an IA, or the person who holds the Repairman's Certficiate for that specific airplane. Buy a tail kit, build it, have it inspected and then sell it. Doesn't that get most people qualified for doing their own annuals on a like experimental? Nope. You have to be listed on the paperwork as the primary builder of an aircraft registered with the FAA to get your "Repairman's Certificate", and that certificate only applies to the airplane you built. You apply for the certificate at the same time you apply for the airworthiness certificate for the airplane you built. KB How much confidence could I have in avionics support for these non-cert boxes? Was that handheld satellite weather/gps gizmo of yours certified? ;-) The Dynon's are nice, I like the pricing of the Stratomaster Enigma better... http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Enigmapage.html |
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Beautiful airplane and Rick does top notch work - I've seen several of his
airplanes and talked with him on a few occasions. However, I suspect he's testing the market price wise. RV-10's are commanding high prices due to supply and demand, but this may be on the way, way, optimistic side. Of course, it costs a lot to build an RV-10, particularly with all new stuff firewall forward and lots of goodies in the panel. Firewall forward, he probably has $50k in the airplane, the kit itself is $50k or so if you go with the quickbuild, and a panel can set you back anywhere from $5k to the GDP of a mid-sized European country. Add $15k for interior, paint, and various nit-picky accessories and you can easily spend $150k to build one. I've looked into building one on the cheap with a mid time engine and a Day/Night/Gyro VFR panel and think it would take a miracle to bring one in at $100k or less. Of course, that's pretty good for a 200 mph cross country airplane that can carry 4 real people and a few bags. KB "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... Drool: http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id19.html -- Dan |
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote:
Smart guy doesn't paint it, doesn't do several things, before selling it and let the buyer choose the details... Nope. You have to be listed on the paperwork as the primary builder of an aircraft registered with the FAA to get your "Repairman's Certificate", and that certificate only applies to the airplane you built. You apply for the certificate at the same time you apply for the airworthiness certificate for the airplane you built. One of those "details" I was eluding to... Thanks for the clarification... |
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That's a beautiful airplane. Does anyone know if insurance is available
for it at that hull value? I don't mean just because it's an experimental - I'm wondering if an insurance company would accept an agreed value that high. Dave M35 Dan Luke wrote: Drool: http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id19.html -- |
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"John Galban" wrote: If I were going to buy an experimental, the RV-10 would be it. It's a blast to fly. Great cruise speeds and excellent low speed performance. I think it's the perfect airplane. Yep. The first time I sat in one at OSH I thought, "This airplane is perfect." -- Dan |
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Nice looking plane, but that panel doesn't look like any consideration was
given to crashworthiness. At least my 74 Archer has a padded eyebrow. -- Best Regards, Mike http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel It is not work that kills men; it is worry. Worry is rust upon the blade. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... Drool: http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id19.html -- Dan |
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Guy near me just built a Lancair 4. Beautiful plane, although some of
the design features are just stupid, but a nice looking plane. Has to be valued at least $350K First years insurance is $12,000. dave wrote: That's a beautiful airplane. Does anyone know if insurance is available for it at that hull value? I don't mean just because it's an experimental - I'm wondering if an insurance company would accept an agreed value that high. Dave M35 Dan Luke wrote: Drool: http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id19.html |
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If the accident is either hard enough to overcome the shoulder belt or the
nose structure of the aircraft that padding on the top of the Archer's panel isn't going to do much good. Mike Noel wrote: Nice looking plane, but that panel doesn't look like any consideration was given to crashworthiness. At least my 74 Archer has a padded eyebrow. http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel It is not work that kills men; it is worry. Worry is rust upon the blade. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... Drool: http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id19.html -- Dan |
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:11:16 -0600, Newps wrote:
Guy near me just built a Lancair 4. Beautiful plane, although some of the design features are just stupid, but a nice looking plane. Has to be valued at least $350K First years insurance is $12,000. Yikes, that's a lot of money, but for a $350k, 300+ mph, retract homebuilt it does not seem that far out of whack. I did a quick Google groups search and see rates from $5-10k quoted for Mooney Bravos and SR22s (similarly priced & one is a retract). -Nathan |
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