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Old January 1st 05, 03:06 PM
Ramapriya
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Default Anti-collision mechanism

Does this get activated only when there's an aircraft in the dangerous
vicinity or will it also trigger if the aircraft is hurtling towards
some terrain such as a hill?

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?

Ramapriya


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Old January 1st 05, 03:25 PM
Bob Moore
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"Ramapriya" wrote

Does this get activated only when there's an aircraft in the dangerous
vicinity or will it also trigger if the aircraft is hurtling towards
some terrain such as a hill?


In my generation of aircraft, (B-727) they are two different systems.
First came the GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) and then some
time later came the TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Advoidance System).

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.

Bob Moore
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Old January 1st 05, 03:42 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:25:18 GMT, Bob Moore
wrote in ::

"Ramapriya" wrote

[...]
And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.


The military is starting to equip some of their aircraft with TCAS
also:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/... fdd9d99f88a5
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Old January 2nd 05, 01:33 AM
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.


The military is starting to equip some of their aircraft with TCAS
also:


The USAF started equipping aircraft with TCAS more than 5 years ago.
Heck, the C-141s equipped with TCAS are already being retired.

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Old January 1st 05, 03:47 PM
Andrew Sarangan
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Then there is the anticollision light system (blinking tail light or
strobes).


Bob Moore wrote in
. 122:

"Ramapriya" wrote

Does this get activated only when there's an aircraft in the dangerous
vicinity or will it also trigger if the aircraft is hurtling towards
some terrain such as a hill?


In my generation of aircraft, (B-727) they are two different systems.
First came the GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) and then some
time later came the TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Advoidance System).

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.

Bob Moore


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Old January 1st 05, 05:52 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"Ramapriya" wrote

Does this get activated only when there's an aircraft in the dangerous
vicinity or will it also trigger if the aircraft is hurtling towards
some terrain such as a hill?


In my generation of aircraft, (B-727) they are two different systems.
First came the GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) and then some
time later came the TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Advoidance System).


And now TAWS is surplanting GPWS and EGPWS.

http://www.sandel.com/sandel/files/TAWS_Final_Rule.pdf
http://www.sandel.com/taws_technotes_primer.htm


And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.


But TAWS and TCAS are now available for smaller GA aircraft.

Shortly, they will be required for turbine aircraft with seven (?) or more
seats.





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Old January 2nd 05, 04:10 AM
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:52:11 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
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And now TAWS is surplanting GPWS and EGPWS.

http://www.sandel.com/sandel/files/TAWS_Final_Rule.pdf
http://www.sandel.com/taws_technotes_primer.htm


EGPWS is a trade name (Honeywell product) TAWS is an "official" FAA
acronym.

That would be why you will find the term TAWS widely referred to, and
EGPWS only pertaining to Honeywell systems.

EGPWS is a TAWS system, but a TAWS system isn't necessarily EGPWS.

Regards;

TC
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Old January 1st 05, 07:10 PM
Garner Miller
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In article , Bob
Moore wrote:

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.


Well, airline passenger turboprops, too. :-)

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Old January 1st 05, 09:52 PM
Don Hammer
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No, only passenger jets are required to have them.

Bob Moore


Not quite true. All turbine aircraft with over 6 passenger seats are
now required to have a TAWS and a CAS system and virtually all
corporate operators have installed them years ago. I installed TCAS II
in my company Gulfstream before it was even mandated by the airlines.

I haven't seen a corporate jet delivered in the last 20 or so years
that didn't have cockpit equipment much better than any airliner.
Typically, all corporate jets get EGPWS and TCAS with HUD and EVS on
the larger ones.

The ones that come kicking and screaming into the 21st century are the
airlines and charter operators. Because of cost, they won't install
any equipment that is not required for regulation or the route.

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Old January 2nd 05, 05:53 AM
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Bob, guess I didn't frame the Q properly enough.
While I knew about the GPWS and TCAS individually, I wasn't sure
whether TCAS was equipped to deal with purely traffic or whether
accidental straying into terrain would also be taken care of.
I'm asking this because I remember an incident of many years ago where
an idiot in the ATC asked an Indonesian aircraft to turn 'left' when he
had to say 'right' and the unsuspecting blokes ran into a mountain. I
was wondering if that kinduva incident can be avoided with the TCAS...

Cheers,

Ramapriya


Bob Moore wrote:
"Ramapriya" wrote

Does this get activated only when there's an aircraft in the

dangerous
vicinity or will it also trigger if the aircraft is hurtling

towards
some terrain such as a hill?


In my generation of aircraft, (B-727) they are two different systems.
First came the GPWS (Ground Proximity Warning System) and then some
time later came the TCAS (Traffic Alert and Collision Advoidance

System).

And does every aircraft have this system these days, regardless of
size?


No, only passenger jets are required to have them.

Bob Moore


 




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