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Old February 4th 07, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
Mxsmanic
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Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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Old February 4th 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Are you sure you don't mean trolling?


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Old February 5th 07, 12:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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Are you sure you don't mean trolling?


Shoots and SCORES!!!!


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Old February 5th 07, 11:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Thanks- I also coach and play hockey as well as fly.



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Old February 6th 07, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Viperdoc wrote:
Thanks- I also coach and play hockey as well as fly.


Alllllright! I'm a referee, used to coach and my son is a junior in
high school and plays for his school. I can't be bothered on Friday and
Saturday nights if the Gophers are on.
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Old February 6th 07, 02:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Just got back from practice- my son is a squirt, and I'm one of the
assistant coaches. We have play downs this weekend (do these sound
familiar?), but unfortunately I'll be in San Diego for a meeting.

It was actually warmer inside the rink than outside tonight, with the OAT
hovering at -4degrees. With two to three practices and at least one to two
games on the weekends it cuts into the flying time. However, we try to fly
to his games, even if it's only a 15 minute ride. Of course going to the
distant tournaments really becomes more fun- and I usually commute by plane
rather than drive.

Was it a big transition going from squirt to checking? My son isn't very
big, so I'm concerned about him getting crushed.


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Old February 4th 07, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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None at all.


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Old February 4th 07, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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On Feb 4, 12:59 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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If your takeoff clearance includes "no delay" due to landing traffic
behind you, then the "rolling" information could be of some use to the
controller. However, this is not something that is widely used. I
suspect it is because the controller cannot simply rely on your
transmission for his decision to issue a landing clearance.




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Old February 4th 07, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Gardner
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If the controller's vision is good enough for a second-class medical, it is
good enough to see if you are rolling or not.

Bob Gardner

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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On Feb 4, 12:59 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.


If your takeoff clearance includes "no delay" due to landing traffic
behind you, then the "rolling" information could be of some use to the
controller. However, this is not something that is widely used. I
suspect it is because the controller cannot simply rely on your
transmission for his decision to issue a landing clearance.






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Old February 4th 07, 08:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Bob Gardner writes:

If the controller's vision is good enough for a second-class medical, it is
good enough to see if you are rolling or not.


Then why do some pilots say it? Or is this one of those insoluble
issues like whether or not to say "as filed" when asking for
clearance?

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