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"Big John"
Martin Your right. Just tell it to the acres of American dead buried in France. From that war there are acres of dead of many countries buried in France, and elsewhere in Europe, Africa, the South Pacific, and Asia. Many peoples shared in the liberation of Europe, and the defeat of the Axis powers everywhere and many people paid the price of that victory. But as we proudly pat ourselves on the back for this, we should remember that though countries like France and other European countries already under the Nazi heel were the direct and overt beneficiaries of the Nazi defeat, the Nazis and their Axis allies were not going to stop there. Once Britain fell, who would have been next in their sights? A victory in Europe was also arguably a victory in avoiding later waging a continuation of that same war on US and Canadian soil, but alone now, our erstwhile allies defeated and gone and their resources turned against us. Saving 'them', was also saving ourselves. Anything 'we' did for them, 'we' also did for ourselves. |
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"Rich Carr" wrote in message om... "Robert Henry" wrote in message Here is some boilerplate to facilitate communication of such. I think it can be permutated into notice of cessation for other business activities pretty quickly. Unfortunately, I am unable attend the [event]; it is being held in the City of Chicago. And if you can't quite remember all of the events that you had planned to attend but now must decline, here's a list: http://www.chicago.il.org/smi/calendar.cfm Chi town is not TOOO concerned about terrorism they are having this even... Aug 28-Sep 1 Muslim American Society - Annual Convention Hyatt Regency Chicago Delegates: 10,000 www.masnet.org |
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"Robert Henry" wrote in message news:2TBYa.27976$5f.26228@lakeread05... "Rich Carr" wrote: And if you can't quite remember all of the events that you had planned to attend but now must decline, here's a list: http://www.chicago.il.org/smi/calendar.cfm And don't forget that it's easily adaptable for addressing to the event planners of these and other organizations of affiliation, in advance.... And I can't believe he'd allow aircraft this close to the city. Aug 16-17 Chicago Air & Water Show North Avenue Beach Public www.cityofchicago.org/specialevents |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... "Tom S." wrote: Like the ones the Europeans have been overwhelmingly throwing at the US since we bailed them out in '45? "We"? You were there? Musta been...my wife says it, like everything else, was my fault. |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:25:36 -0500, Big John wrote:
Martin Your right. Just tell it to the acres of American dead buried in France. Heck, they are dead. Go yourself and speak with them. Or speak with others also fighting agains facism and not beeing American and died. You might be surprised, but there have also been non-US-people opposing and fighting (and dieing). It's obvious that you are too young to have experienced the debacle in France during WWII and the help (Marshall Plan) that the US gave to help recover. And you mean for how long someone should say thank you (you? or whom?) for this? Another 50 years, 100, 500 years? Forever? As I said befo I was born 30 years after the war _ended_. I do respect what they did. But I won't put it into account today for rating a nation. It's been too long ago. Big John #m -- http://www.usawatch.org/ http://www.alternet.org/ Don't like your neighbor? - https://tips.fbi.gov/ Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity. |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:45:12 GMT, Ron McKinnon wrote:
A victory in Europe was also arguably a victory in avoiding later waging a continuation of that same war on US and Canadian soil, but alone now, our you should also check where some of the German submarines have been. They have been all along the US east coast and only with the invention of radar it was possible to have a somewhat save route from the US to GB to deliver troops and supply. erstwhile allies defeated and gone and their resources turned against us. Saving 'them', was also saving ourselves. Anything 'we' did for them, 'we' also did for ourselves. Well, I would put it this way: America has never done something without first thinking what would be the positive effect for yourself. But this is the good right of any nation to think this way. But don't wonder that other countries really _do_ think this way. #m -- http://www.usawatch.org/ http://www.alternet.org/ Don't like your neighbor? - https://tips.fbi.gov/ Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity. |
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Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.
Good point. No thank you's needed, but to learn the lessons is the value of remembering the dead. VL |
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On 09 Aug 2003 16:27:36 GMT, MLenoch wrote:
Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity. Good point. :-)) No thank you's needed, fine. but to learn the lessons is the value of remembering the dead. I can only speak for myself: I've learned the lesson. VL #m -- http://www.usawatch.org/ http://www.alternet.org/ Don't like your neighbor? - https://tips.fbi.gov/ Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity. |
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"MLenoch" wrote in message ... Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity. Good point. No thank you's needed, but to learn the lessons is the value of remembering the dead. And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45? |
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And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?
If you really have to know.......(just from the B-17s), my parents looked up to the skies and saw liberation as they flew onto their targets. Someone was willing to sacrifice their life to liberate my parents. No need to read too much into that. VL |
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