FAR:Safety Pilot & High Performance/Complex?

"Simon" wrote in message ...
Acting as pilot in command is the situation where the pilot is (in his or
her mind) the pilot in command. Logging is independant of acting, you are
correct, in the USA there is a tenuous relationship betwee the two.

Agreed.

Serving
as pilot in command does not apply to part 91 operations, ..

Oh, you mean "pretending to be PIC."

"Teacherjh" wrote in message ...
My impression from this discussion is that "serving" as PIC (while not "acting"
as PIC) is sort of like being able to log PIC time when you are solo and not
yet a private pilot. You're not rated, but you are doing the things you would
be doing if you were.

Soloing student pilots are PILOT IN COMMAND.

Soloing student pilots are PILOT IN COMMAND.

Well, sorta. They're not rated. Would a non-pilot who stole an airplane be
"pilot in command" and be able to log it as such? (yes, he can log anything,
but would those hours count toward ratings?)

(and yes, being and logging are different, I'm using this difference to
contrast to the "acting" vs "serving" question.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message ...
Soloing student pilots are PILOT IN COMMAND.

Well, sorta. They're not rated. Would a non-pilot who stole an airplane be
"pilot in command" and be able to log it as such? (yes, he can log anything,
but would those hours count toward ratings?)

Not sorta. They are pilot in command. Forget logging. There is a specific
reason there is such a thing as a "Student Pilot Certificate." The FAA doesn't
send planes out without a pilot in command Read 61.89 Sutdent Pilots/General limitations:

.... A student pilot may not act as pilot in command of an aircraft that is carrying a passenger...

Other than a few restrictions, student pilots can be PIC when soloing.

Back before 1997, they could not LOG pilot in command time, but they were still pilot in command.